Posting from my phone so I might not be as thorough.

Main villain is not a pro but is a regular and I've played with him a bit. He plays pretty straightforward for the most part. He is too loose pre and calls threebets too wide.

My image is good TAG. I think most of the villain's have seen me lead strong hands before. I feel that my leading range is well-balanced in the spots I choose to lead, but also think mostly my stronger leads have been shown down.

The other villains aren't too important because they just fold to the flop donk. I will note that I expect them to play fit-or-fold vs my lead.

V1 ($530) raises to $20 UTG+2

V2 (~$300) calls $20 UTG+3

V3 (~$500) calls $20 CO

Hero ($550) calls $20 SB w/ A5

V4 (~$1k) calls $20 BB

FLOP ($100) 962

Hero donks $60

V4 folds

V1 calls $60

V2 folds

V3 folds

TURN ($220) 3

Hero bets $140

Villain calls $140 pretty quickly

RIVER ($500) 7

Hero shoves $310 effective

Thoughts? What range might you give me in this spot?

I chose to lead because the board is pretty dry and the villains will play very straightforward. I also have many good turns which will improve my equity when called.

I think V1's range is weighted heavily towards one pair hands, not limited to pocket pairs / over pairs. He opens too wide and can have most suited connectors so he can have a lot of 9x and 6x. He would usually raise flop with KK+ and 99, 66, 22. He definitely can flat sets but I'm very confident he would shove the turn with them. Based on this I think he rarely has better than one pair when we get to the river this way, unless it is 67 or 77.

Thoughts on my flop donk? Turn barrel? Do you like my river shove?

Bluffing into 4 opponents with very little equity is suicidal.

I don't like it. You say the villain plays straight forward and respects you leading. Yet he has called you on the flop and "pretty quickly" on the turn and has now invested around half his stack into the pot.

What do you mean when you say he can definitely flat sets but you're confident he would shove the turn? Have you seen him flat the flop and shove the turn, or only flat the flop and you believe he would shove the turn on feel? In any case, the way the hand played out just feels unnecessary to me.

Ill take spew for $1000 Alex.

this thought process is fine, except you are oop in a multiway pot? i mean if you are last to act and it's checked to you then i would agree with the above statement.

Fold pre. X f every street. Triple barreling with air vs described villain is lighting money on fire.

This. Youre oop ffs

double thumbs down rating

Why don't you tell us what range of hands you are trying to rep and then it's easier for us to determine whether or not your line is believable.

I very often lead sets in these spots. I very rarely attempt bluffs like this, especially five way. I'm actually still in the same game and like ten minutes ago took the same line with 22 on KQ2 4 6 and won a $1.5k pot. At least the bluff was good for image purposes.

I also would lead some draws (e.g. 78) and some hands like TT, JJ, or 9x.

C-

Leading here is just suicide

Trying to push 2/5 players off "one pair hands", as you call them, is a recipe for homelessness.

One of the main reasons 2/5 players are terrible is they make huge calling mistakes. So, your game strategy should based on extracting maximum value, not 3-barrelling into calling stations whilst oblivious to board texture.

That's irrelevant because your opponent isn't thinking in terms of ranges. The most important thing to him is the strength of his hand - and so far it looks pretty strong.

Your line seems suicidal. I really dislike the flop and river bets, but the turn bet I guess is ok given that you donked the flop and got one caller.

Fold pre only 75bb effective w speculative hand oop

So 1) does that mean you just lost at least 1000 in those 10 minutes?
2) I'm assuming you got called on the river in that hand, and by better than Ace high. Do you think this villain is more likely to think "He took this same line with a set in that one hand" or do you think, given that he has called you this far, that he will think whatever it was the guy was thinking in the 22 hand and call you down?

Different opponents. The 22 hand was also multiway (5) but the guy who called flop was a huge station. V1 in the A5 hand is capable of folding a pair. I've seen it!

This is a good point. So what hand might villain put me on? What hand would he have to think I have for him to call if he has TT? J9? 56? 78?

You're asking 'what am i repping' and the answer is, not much. a flopped set or overpair, basically.

however i don't know that you need to worry about that. i doubt he's calling because the board texture combined with your actions aren't telling a convincing story. that's how good players analyze hands, he's not a good player, he's a random live donk.

random live donks look at their hands and then they look at the board and think of all of the possible hands that beat theirs, and those are what you are repping. 45 and 8T made straights, so he's probably worried about those. and sets. and two pair hands (assuming he doesn't have two pair).

even with all of that, none of this analysis matters because as others have said, you make your money at llsnl by taking calling stations to value town, not firing multiple shells at them trying to get them to fold TP when their obviously in the mood to be stubborn, as this guy clearly is.

i would not have donked the flop. if i did, barreling the turn is fine. but once you did that, time to wave the white flag and let him have his pot.

Leading this flop is one of the worst poker plays I have ever seen. Following that up with two more bullets is beyond description.

Not deep enough...what are you repping...

When V1 calls quickly I think it means his hand is weaker. I've noticed that at this level players will try to intimidate you into slowing down by calling very quickly.

I say that I expect him to raise/shove the turn because I've seen him do it and make comments about not wanting to see another [straight card / flush card].

The guy isn't a total drooler. My value range in this spot is pretty narrow: {99, 66, 22, 67, QQ, JJ, TT, A9, K9, Q9} I think Q9 is the bottom (in this spot, against this V), but maybe not even that. V1 has seen me flat QQ in a spot like this. I pretty much never have any two pair combos on the flop (i.e. 96, 92, 62).

I don't mind my flop lead so much. Sometimes you can look around the table and see that a few players have already checked out and are just ready for the next hand.

I will say that I think my turn bet isn't very good. I think it's a bit of a shot in the dark predicated largely on V1's flop snap-call. However, given the previous action, I actually still like my river shove.

A friend of mine is just like you. Tries to think critically but his arguments run out as a swirl of false logic, trying to defend his bad play. Forget the ranges you are repping. The dude had an over pair and wasn't folding. You've got fancy play syndrome in a 2/5 game and that'll send you broke.

There are so many easier spots to make money. Here you are out of position, facing multiple callers in a raised hand, have no real implied odds, etc. Always have a reason for everything you do at a poker table. When you called pf, did you plan to triple barrel bluff into multiple villains who have called a preflop raise if you missed the flop? Sure, it could work, but your odds of success would be much better just putting it all on black. Just because you haven't bluffed in awhile is not a good reason to risk your whole stack in a marginal spot.

But you see... you lead sets in spots like this because people won't believe that you lead sets in spots like this so you expect to get paid by TT-AA. The fact that you don't ever run this bluff is sort of irrelevant, because only you really know that. Again, you lead sets here so people won't fold the range that this guy likely has. I have fallen victim to this line of thought before... "But I never have a bluff when I take this line in this spot! Villain is a thinking player and will recognize this and fold his AA!".

c/r flop if you really feel like getting out of line. Donking into 5 is a fos line, and that's why its profitable with hands like sets - because you'll get called down. No one is going to level themselves into folding a good hand, because they're not putting you on sets anyway...

Saying that a particular villain would play fit/fold doesn't help when you're on the flop, because you're playing OOP in a multiway pot, and you don't know which villain will respond unfavorably to your flop bluff.

If a villain calls with a set / overpair, they're likely to just call down three streets because you're doing the work for them and they don't want to scare you out of the hand. Once called, villains' range should be strong enough to likely not be folding. Live read of 'players being checked out' should be meted by the fact that everyone flatted the preflop raiser, and the board is dry.