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Live 2/5. Folding the top of my range? Live 2/5. Folding the top of my range?

07-11-2019 , 03:03 AM
Live 2/5 1500 effective. Button Straddle. Raise KsKc to 35, Villain calls on button rest fold.

Villain started the session playing very very crazy (opening T2o to 10bb and check raising flop with T6s on J83r) but has played very tight for the past hour or so.

Flop Ah 9c 2h. (Pot 70)
I check Villain Checks.

Turn Ac (Pot 70)

I bet 40, Villain raises to 100, I call.

River Kh (Pot 270)
I check. Villain bets 100. I raise to 350, Villain Jams (1300)

Hero?

A little background: earlier in the session I got dealt QQ and JJ and both times an Ace came on the flop. I was a little tilted when this Ace came and called the turn raise when normally I would have folded.

I'm not sure if the villain has worse value here. Also, I'm not sure if the villain checks A9 or A2 on the flop with the flush draw out there. Also I have no idea if he even plays A9o or A2o. I'm almost certain he 3bets AK so I can rule that out.

I'm at the literal top of my range. I don't ever have AK, A9, or A2 here. However, I don't know if Villain is ever bluffing here. What do you guys think?

Spoiler:
I was an idiot and called without thinking too long "I'm at the top of my range and I beat 99, 22, and flushes" called and got shown As2s. I'm pretty upset that I didn't think about it more because I might've talked myself into a fold (being results oriented).
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07-11-2019 , 04:29 AM
You mustn't say "i lost, therefore the call was bad".

It's a call on the river. Losing hurts but we should be losing a majority of our river calls.

Last edited by Czech Rays; 07-11-2019 at 04:35 AM.
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07-11-2019 , 05:59 AM
The mistake was calling the turn raise. He's not raising the turn without something that can beat KK. The rest is just tilt spew.

Don't get married to your cards.
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07-11-2019 , 10:22 AM
Calling the turn raise isn't bad, it's the driest flop ever and V has a history of being a spaz raising with air. Once we call turn raise it's going to be hard for him to blast off with air because we have so many Ax.

Personally I'd check turn to get him to stab a wider range and keep the pot reasonably sized. A lot of the time V is drawing dead or near dead and based on the HHs I don't think he will be able to resist stabbing turn and sometimes river with a hopeless hand.
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07-11-2019 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mdelore
Calling the turn raise isn't bad, it's the driest flop ever and V has a history of being a spaz raising with air.
Agreed. I'm definitely calling the turn raise.
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07-11-2019 , 12:04 PM
I called the turn raise because of his past spew and because
1. I thought he was unlikely to bet river with a bluff once I called so it would be easy to make a decision on the river
2. If I did happen to spike the miracle king and he has value, I would almost surely get paid off for a large bet

That being said, I'm curious what people think of the river. Is it really a snap call? What are you realistically hoping villain has? Do you just hope that he has 99? I don't think he has an bluff ever and he would have to be really bad to have a flush there.
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07-11-2019 , 03:05 PM
Strange check by V on that flop with top/bottom....
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07-11-2019 , 03:17 PM
No one find a C-bet on flop? It's pretty binary...either he's hit or not. Reassess when we get called.
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07-11-2019 , 03:37 PM
You're getting just better than 2/1 to call river (950 to win 2020)

6 combos of full houses that you beat, 15 combos of full houses/quads that beat you (although the 3 combos of AA/AK are very unlikely given the preflop action) So realistically 6 hands you beat and 12 hands you lose to, so right near that 2/1 spot...but ask yourself is villain really going to take this line with 99 or 22? Seems unlikely, so I weight this more towards the hands that beat you

Easy check-raise/fold river imo, just because he opened to 50 with trash and check-raised a flop with air early on in the session, doesn't mean he's likely to punt off 1300 on the river...villains way underbluff these spots at these stakes, some villains never bluff these spots at these stakes

Only thing worse than calling off here (and it was pretty bad) would be listening to the guy who said fold to the turn raise

EDIT: Are you really at the top of your range here? Is AK really a bet 100% of the time on the flop?
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07-11-2019 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by venice10
The mistake was calling the turn raise. He's not raising the turn without something that can beat KK. The rest is just tilt spew.

Don't get married to your cards.
+1

I'm wondering if not cbetting the flop was a mistake. Did this put us in a tougher position decision wise.
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07-11-2019 , 09:40 PM
The main hand I'm worried about is AK. People don't always 3b it. However, when they check flop, I'm not giving them credit for AK. I call and expect to see a rag A.
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07-11-2019 , 11:16 PM
NH every street. If he showed you 22 then the hand doesn't appear here. That means you're sweating the result, period. I mean really well played. Good river line and sizing.
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07-12-2019 , 03:19 AM
Easiest call on the river. Especially given the reads. Don't be results oriented.

For you to fold river there you need sick reads. Without sick read always call.
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