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11-17-2018 , 07:51 AM
Live 2/5. 1000 effective. I sat down at the table 3 hands ago. UTG makes it 20, folded to me on the button with AA. I make it 70. UTG calls. Heads up.

Flop 457r (Pot 150)

I bet 80, UTG thinks about it for a long time and makes it 600. Hero??

Reads: 30-40 year old white guy. Has baseball cap and large beard. I frequent the casino and know that he isn't a regular. He's sitting with 1k in a 1k max game so no reads off of that. He's drinking a beer.

Now WTF do I do. Hands I'm beating are overplayed overpairs (88-QQ) who chose not to 4bet and now decided to go with it on this board. Losing to sets and 75s and 68s if he chose to open that pre (I think he may choose to limp 44 and 55 and 75s and 68s off population reads but unclear)

Now I don't think there are any bluffs here but he could have a hand like 76s. So, what would you do.
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11-17-2018 , 08:02 AM
That’s ****ed but so welrd not sure i can getaway from this as we are at the top of our range in this spot.just min reraise and get it in
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11-17-2018 , 08:18 AM
I don't expect to see too many straights here, but I think that sets are definitely possible, so are many 2pr combos. I think we can also expect to see a lot of 6x here: hands like 76s, 66, 65s and 64s. We'll see 88 too and we will occasionally see some QQ/KK/AA as well.

I think I'm getting it in here with AA, but it's extremely marginal and I don't expect to be winning too much EV from it. I wouldn't fault a fold either.
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11-17-2018 , 08:27 AM
Sigh shove and hope for jj/qq.

Live population is just too spewy to consider folding here. And most live players put you on AK the moment you threebet, looks like he's trying to get you off it so his JJ doesn't get cracked.


If he really had a set or two pair here would he do this? I doubt it man, any thinking player is going to make a small raise here with a set. Maybe 3x or just call heads up because it's a dry board vs a threebet range.


I'm expecting to be ahead when called, and rarely he shows ups with like 76s and has good equity.

Will legit be shocked if he flips a set or two pair.
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11-17-2018 , 09:22 AM
Instajam, hope for the best. Probably just has 76 or something. It's a slightly ****ty spot because your equity can't be amazing, but not folding.
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11-17-2018 , 06:37 PM
200bb deep I'd be looking to check back a lot of my range here. He has a nutted advantage, having most if not all sets while we don't have any. He may also have 76s/75s. If we had AK/AQ here we shouldn't really be bluffing here since his range is pretty overpair heavy + sets.

AP it's close. Sucks because you don't have any reads. We can't just assume he's a smart player and is leveling us into stacking off QQ+ otf, but it's pretty bad to assume he can just have a bunch of 88-QQ here 200 bigs deep. I guess w/ AA we are supposed to go with it, if we had JJ-KK we can find a fold since we can argue he's trapping pre with AA but since we have AA we kind of just have to hope for the best once we cbet this flop and get raised.
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11-17-2018 , 09:17 PM
betting flop is mistake but as played it just looks so spewy - you put yourself in this spot so jamming or folding can't be a huge mistake but i'm leaning towards a jam.
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11-17-2018 , 10:17 PM
I check this back most of the time unless I'm against a really abc opponent who I know won't pull this kind of thing. Anyone with two neurons to rub together knows you have no piece of this board.

As played I am getting it in and not loving it. Rec players will spaz it up with worse overpairs like this. Horrible spot though.
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11-18-2018 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by djevans
betting flop is mistake but as played it just looks so spewy - you put yourself in this spot so jamming or folding can't be a huge mistake but i'm leaning towards a jam.
lol
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11-18-2018 , 10:22 AM
Just a personal tip. I usually buy in for 100bbs at the start of a new table that I am unfamiliar with. For this exact reason.

Typically add on after 10 or 15 hands.
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11-18-2018 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Discretion
Live 2/5. 1000 effective. I sat down at the table 3 hands ago. UTG makes it 20, folded to me on the button with AA. I make it 70. UTG calls. Heads up.

Flop 457r (Pot 150)

I bet 80, UTG thinks about it for a long time and makes it 600. Hero??

Reads: 30-40 year old white guy. Has baseball cap and large beard. I frequent the casino and know that he isn't a regular. He's sitting with 1k in a 1k max game so no reads off of that. He's drinking a beer.

Now WTF do I do. Hands I'm beating are overplayed overpairs (88-QQ) who chose not to 4bet and now decided to go with it on this board. Losing to sets and 75s and 68s if he chose to open that pre (I think he may choose to limp 44 and 55 and 75s and 68s off population reads but unclear)

Now I don't think there are any bluffs here but he could have a hand like 76s. So, what would you do.
I would prolly raise more pre to like 80-100. I love Low sprs with kk/aa as it’s easier to get money in. Not that 70 pre is wrong. I just like raising more pre with my whole range to induce less multi-way pots and to build a solid pot worth playing at. If you raise bigger with all hands, opponents can’t really decipher what your value/ bluff range is also.

As played, I feel this is a simple call. I don’t see a lot of sets ripping or straights. Not sure who is calling this 3 bet with 6-8 also. I feel opponent will have 99- kk a lot here (more likely 99-qq). I mean idk how likely this is but I can see 67 or draws with top pair doing similar things to action. Even against a 2 pair hand, you have outs and some equity so feel this is an easy spot.

I feel Villians range is weighted toward pocket pairs that are worse than aa. Even 88, opponent could be spazzing here with a hand like that. I feel you have to call.
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11-18-2018 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Discretion
Reads: 30-40 year old white guy. Has baseball cap and large beard. I frequent the casino and know that he isn't a regular. He's sitting with 1k in a 1k max game so no reads off of that. He's drinking a beer.
Hands like this are why guys like this hate jacks.
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