3limpers
Villain(500$) CO raisse to 11
Hero(350$) SB raise to 35 with J♥ 9♥
Everyone folds
villain calls
Flop Q♦ 8♥ 6♦
Hero bets 35, villain calls
Turn 3♠ hero bets 80, villain calls
River Q♣ hero?

pot 70+70+160 = 300

remaining stack 350 - 35 -35 -80 = 200

I would shove easily.

However, without any read or info for V. I m not sure 3 bet oop with J9s is a +EV action.


Whoops. I totally misread the post. How come all suit is black to me. I thought v got flush.

As played , I might give up. You can't rep much

I think shoving is spew. Villain is snapping with all Queens and folding missed draws to a modest sized bet. Figure out what you would bet with KK and bet that number. thinking 135ish.

I'm sorry, I stopped reading after you 3-bet pre with J9 suited. How is this a +EV play? There's like $20 in the pot. Might be worth a squeeze if there was a raise in early or mid position with several callers. This is a bad spot to 3-bet though IMHO.

Unless you have been seeing right through the V's cards all night then this PF raise is bad. Very bad.
Especially with a hand that can flop great. As well as several limpers behind that may very well call 11 and give you great IO even tho you are oop.

Most likely this is not a hand I lead OTF.
Turn: ck/fold
River:you folded

No description makes it a generic hand played poorly preflop

All for aggressive 3bets but not in this situation pretty much ever.

1.) No reads on villain? Not sure we can help you if not.
2.) Never mind, we can. Don't 3bet pre with J-9.
3.) As played, villain called you on flop and turn. Unless he happens to have diamonds, I can't see anything he called flop and turn with that will fold the river. The only Q you credibly rep is AQ, which most regs do not 3bet with pre and will instinctively discount from your range.
I doubt I bet the turn. You spewed a little pre and tried a cbet and got called. No need to piss away more cash.

Now that you're here, tank $150 is fine, you'll break even if he folds at least 25% of the time. It may be nickel and dime philosophy, but generally the fact you DONT shove (and leave $50 back) might get a few more lol folds when he's heroing pairs against your "AK". That third barrel is hard to face sometimes, even on a river that would seem to make KK/AA hesitant. Ofc he's calling Qx always and some slow played KK/AA as well, but there are also enough times he's fishing a wide range of draws against your QQ+ that want to call and catch with knowing you won't fold flop or turn to pressure given your strong line. You're blocking a bunch of combos you need him to have, but there's enough FE to keep rep what you're repping... A ck = an open fold, so bet and button up your 3! Range this shallow.

No reads...?

Im checking flop but why would even 3-bet this in the first place @ LLSNL. I'd fold this pre easy... or call

Stop getting fancy/FPS, blinds don't matter in LLSNL and this board smashes a lot of Co's 3-bet calling range.

Thank you for your answers and sorry about the format I posted from my phone.i had no reads on villain at that time but after playing for a while with him and seeing some showdowns i don't think he folds much to 3bets and that might be the case for most players at this limit.I'm new to live games so i haven't adjusted, i just do what i do online.
What is your 3bet bluff range here.do you use suited small aces offsuit crap or you depolarize you range and just 3bet the top of your range?
I check folded and he snap shoved showing Jd.

My 3bet bluff range from the SB with 3 limpers and open raise from the CO with no reads is probably 0% of the time.

Low limit live is WAY different than online.

3! bluffs seem to be an uncessary part of the game, especially out of position!

IF I 3! bluff into a field of limpers I prefer to have a small pocket pair, or a suited ace.

But it is raaaaaaare that such a play is even necessary!

Welcome to live play. Its horribley bad, and profitable.

You're adjusting to live poker completely wrong and so far your only justification for your line has been first-level thinking of a more sophisticated online variety, but it's still first level nonetheless. Who cares about your 3bet range? What do you think his opening range from CO is? How much of that range do you expect him to fold to a 3bet with position, especially if he knows you're an aggressive online player? How many Qs and overpairs vs bluffs and draws does he expect you to have on that board texture? I think most decent players would call two streets at least against you on that board texture with TPGK, especially if your image at the table at all matches up with what you presented to us here.

Here's a few population reads on LLSNL that are good for you to consider:

A) Most players' 3bet range at these stakes is QQ+.

B) Contra A, most players call 3bets way too wide considering A, especially when they open.

C) Players who 3bet wider or AK tend to follow through on multiple streets, often irrespective of board textures.

D) Players don't like to fold TP, especially HU and/or on wet board textures... At least until a flush comes in.

Thus, I think this hand is total spew. If you can actually give evidence-based justifications to the questions I posed at the beginning to support your line, it could be less spewey. Hope this helps.

I expect him to have a wide range >30% but you're right from what I've seen later he isn't folding anything regardless of position.my plan on the flop was to 3 barrel this hand but I thought on this Q river I can't even rep AA KK and i haven't many Q hands here.
Should I 3bet a depolarized range of my best hands like KJ+ or just reduce the 3bet range to only premium hands?