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08-20-2010 , 07:24 PM
We are 6 handed around 4am last night. Table is split by play evenly: 2 rocks, 2 fish, and 2 tags.

Stacks/reads
Villain 1 in the bb:~$265 / Huge Fish has called down w/ gutters, oesd, fd bottom pairs etc etc... all night.

Villain 2 UTG+1: ~$225(in for 80 and is part of the game aka collecting money from rake) / He is generally a rock who is borderline mouse at times when he is up money. Table has been limping often except when the other Tag/I have been raising so he feels safe limp/folding or Limp/calling. Limp calls with some big hands like A Q suited and J J.

Hero button: covers all with about 290/ perceived as tag to all at the table who understand the meaning...

Family pot pf. Hero limps on the button with 6 7 os.
Pot: $12
Flop: 7 6 7 (2 clubs) good flop!
checks around to villain 2 who leads out for $8
folds to hero: calls
BB: calls

Pot:$36 3 players left

Turn:10 (non club)

Villain 1:checks
Villain 2: bets $20
Hero: calls. My reason for calling is that my read on the the fish is he hit his str8 and might raise plus he looked excited. (do you agree with this or would you rather raise now? Why?)
Villain 1: raises to $45
Villain 2: tank calls
Hero: takes a couple of minutes and shoves all in!
Villain 2 is now just staring at me and saying wow under his breath. He is not pleased.

$210 for Villain 1 to call and $170 for villain 2 to call.
I feel like the overbet reps a lot of unboated 7s which i think are behind both to either a str8 or A 7 etc... Or it could represent the fd. As well as making them question why would he shove here if he had a boat? Good concept against these particular villains? I know i'm probably scaring fds away but I feel like letting a river peel off could make it more difficult to extract more value. I by no means thought this was my only option but i felt it was my best.

Then... While Villain 1 is tanking he is chatting to his friend to his right. They both came together and are both Indian. They are speaking in a different language and I am kind of getting pissed about it. I thought about it while he they were chatting away quite a bit and even though i didn't approve of it i thought that saying something about it could easily give them 1 of 2 impressions. 1. He is weak i should cal... which would be the good one or 2. he is strong i should fold. I also felt like his friend the other uber fish at the table was giving him advice i could be to call. They were both stuck and i could see him possibly egging him on to call or something. What do you think about this? Keep quiet? Say something to them or the dealer? I felt like telling them "Hey! If you want to see this seventh card you're gonna stop speakin' fu****' Sputnick." lol
All comments welcome will post results later!
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08-20-2010 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by undurrrated
We are 6 handed around 4am last night. Table is split by play evenly: 2 rocks, 2 fish, and 2 tags.


Hero button: covers all with about 290/ perceived as tag to all at the table who understand the meaning...

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I am not sure there is a big difference between a TAG and a Rock.

I might take the raise from $45 now up to $95/$105 total. I like re-opening the betting to induce another raise and let them put money in while hoping to hit their hand, or to go all in with a straight.
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08-21-2010 , 11:50 AM
in position i would flat the turn, let them shoot the fireworks on the river for you
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08-21-2010 , 12:58 PM
Your raise sucks, if you were one of the fish that could overplay trips its fine as a player like yourself would call with the straight otherwise it looks like a huge ($$$$bet$$$$) hand to a live nit. If it was me and villian would pay off a $45 raise and a river shove on that turn I would raise it myself or just check min raise the turn and shove the river. People like to raise more than call but don´t like calling big bets unless they have loads of cash, are a good player or hold the nuts.

As for the table talk its dependent on the rules of the casino if they permit other languages at the table during the hand. You can always call the clock though.
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08-21-2010 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by br3nt00
in position i would flat the turn, let them shoot the fireworks on the river for you
+1. might as well call again and spring the trap on the river. the mistake you want them to make is thinking their bare trips or straights are good. you tell them they might not be when you shove. sure, sometimes they will bone this one and you get called anyway, but the higher percentage play is waiting for the river against two players who both like their hands.
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08-21-2010 , 10:00 PM
Villain 1 ends up calling w/ 8 9 and villain 2 ends up folding but not showing.
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