Uhh... he's gonna flop a flush draw, get the manies in and bink, duh.

No I realize I played it badly. I just disagreed on preflop. I was stuck at the fact it was so little to call the 3!, and that if he's making that dumb of a raise then he's obviously terrible (this turned out true throughout the night). You guys have helped convince me I was wrong pf. After pf, I'm getting a good price, and I was not way behind.

I know this is the first hand but I would've 3bet the first raise pre since it was basically a min raise. As played agree with everyone else and fold to the other guy's 3bet.

On the flop I'm just calling because $50 into $60 looks like a value hand and it doesn't seem like there's much fold equity here.

The more I think about it the clearer I am that it's a 3!. That's def my standard with the min raise, I guess being the first hand gave me a schism.

Your opponent did make a mistake not 3 betting big enough, but I would say it's only a small mistake. As for flop play lets analyze it further. You should raise for a few reasons on the flop. 1. You think your opponent is weak, so you can semi-bluff with the best hand. Never the case with your opponent small 3 betting. Mostly this is a big hand trying to not scare action away. 2. You can raise to get a free card on the turn. This is very unlikely given the strength of your opponents hand, and the draw heavy nature of the board. 3. To represent a strong hand. On this flop your representing exactly what you have, air with a draw. So your folding equity is zero.
As for the Math. Your equity on the flop with one over and a flush draw is around 44%. If your opponent has a spade 42%. I wouldn't mind this play if you had the Ace of spades and King of spades for example as it would be a little closer. Or better yet a pair and a flush draw where your a slight favorite. It's just you should be thinkng more of making positive equity plays, rather than taking the worst of it. That's all. And if you don't bink the turn your down to 25% equity with one card to come. This play would be far better when your opponents range is weak.

If you that V had AA KK why are you shoving? V is never folding AA KK on that flop, when semi bluffing with a FD you should have some fold equity.

I play lag lots. Sitting at a table and 3 bet first hand with k-10 without reads seems really bad. Good lags use reads and table dynamics to apply pressure.

Sitting down and 3! First hand seems aggro/maniac to me not lag.

Possibly aggro/maniac for sure. My days of playing 2/3 seriously are long past, the money is tough to respect. Time for a tune up!

I wish you hadn't spoiled it but his bet sizing indicates QQ+ to me and I don't think you have fold equity, and you have another player who is still in the pot who can donate more dead money. I don't really like shoving even though it should be about breakeven with the dead money in the middle. I think I peel the card and see if I can keep it 3 way and bink. It depends on the aggressor and how good he as at hand reading, because that strategy becomes a disaster when he folds to the flush.

and for sure, this guys bet sizing is a mess, so he's probably a fish and I don't think he folds the flop ever

Shoving tho is at least breakeven so it's actually fine if you are just having a good time

A preflop raise to $7 is obviously lol and I expect the rest of the table to come along for it, so I'd also call with suited broadway and hope to see a multiway pot (where I can play pretty straightforwardly and don't have to rely on reads all that much). I'd fold to the reraise. We'll only be going 3way, will have to rely on our reads much more (which we don't have), plus we'll be OOP and could get in tricky spots with TP type hands (where we could easily be dominated).

I'd probably check/shove the flop. Overs + 2nd nutflush draw is a fairly monster hand (we probably have ~50% equity against a lot of TP hands), there might be a crap load of dead money in the pot (especially if V2 bets and V1 calls), plus we should have decent FE (even though villain's will be readless on us).

ETA: Ok, maybe "decent" FE is overstating things, but even something like 20% FE is turning our hand into a monster. Plus there is already 53bbs in the middle (half our starting stack), so we're fistpumping ~50/50 cases (the most likely case) if someone does call the shove.

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This.

Funny, I missed this...

c/r this flop with a FD + two overs and then folding is criminal.

Also reading villain for specifically AA/KK is bad. JJ/QQ should also be included in that range. I mean, if V has JJ in this spot is he not shoving on this board? Of course he will shove on a 7 high board.

If we think the K is usually live then if you raise this flop and get shoved on, then you should have the equity to call.

But if you aren't willing to play for stacks on this board then FFS don't raise flop