Dickwiggle had not played a hand of poker since this abortion http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...0s-bb-1562657/ a week or so before but had put in 20 hours since then making internet cash and needed a break and excuse to blow some paper.


It was 4:45 PM in Satan's playground (Hollywood Casino Columbus) and Dickwiggle was seated at a 1/2 NLHE table full of people I'd seen around the Columbus poker scene but didn't know well. When it's a table full of known unknowns, I assume they play like bad regs until proven otherwise and try to handicap the play based on outward appearance and chip stacks. I buy in for $160 and everyone at the table has about that or way above with the largest stack was $700ish seated directly to my right.


700ish stack button for $5 straddles with a dead small blind the action is to me with 1010. Why me?

DW plays with phone to think and decides to call the $5 and shove if it gets back around to me with a decent amount of dead money. Other option considered were raise to $15 raise to $20 or fold.

Action folds to blue collar 20-30s white reg with about $150 who makes it $20 from middle position. No other takers and action folds to DW.

Options considered.
1)Flat and potsize bet any flop with low cards or one high card or set.
2)Jam all in
3) Jam to $75

DW decides to on option 1). If I had it to do over again I would have jammed. Thoughts?

Flop 64k

DW doesn't do anything but dealer says check. DW hates this dealer but keeps this to himself and decides he to let action continue as if he checked because V has already checked behind.

How dumb was this? I wanted to c-bet but also was fine seeing another card assuming I'm ahead. Should I have gone ape$hit? I thnk V would have folded if I caused a scene about losing a betting but maybe not.


Turn card 10 DW throws out $40, V tanks 20 seconds and calls. Pot is about $115 minus rake with DW having $90 behind.

River 9 DW announces all-in. V checks cards and calls.


Turn and river play themselves. I would love thoughts on preflop and flop decisions. Especially if this is a situation to cause a scene. You all seem to think I need to be nicer to people based on other thread so I was trying to follow that advice.

Thanks kindly,

Richard Wiggle

First decision: I like the flat, as lots of V's will defend way too wide, and you can get a lot of dead money by L/RR here.

Second decision: Wait, what happened to our plan? It's generally not great to change plans in a hand when nothing changed to force it. You got the raise you were looking for, now juice it up. I make it $50 and shove all non-ace/not more than one broadway flop.

AP, I do not let the check stand. We know that V plans to check behind,a nd we can likely get him to fold a lot of equity with a bet. i protest, and then make a slightly over 1/2 PSB.

Turn and river are fine, ldo.

Was the dead $30 enough to shove into? I think one more caller and it's an easy shove but with just the open raiser it felt spewy to shove remaining $120 into that. Thanks for bringing up this point.

Agree with DW on the preflop change-of-plan. I think it's a great hand to l/rr against a crowded field with. But once everyone else has folded, there's now far less dead money overlay. If we l/rr here, we mostly narrow his range to hands that beat us or are coinflips against us. If we call, SPR will be ~3 ($50 in the pot, $150 left in stack), so it won't be too hard to get stacks in on runouts that I like. Seems like a fine spot to call and play oop with an underrepped hand.

OTF, agree with Garick that I contest the dealer and then put out a flop bet.

Turn/River standard.

I wouldn't have shoved, but I would have 3-bet. As mentioned, I like 2.5X the open here. It gets a call almost always, but also makes the pot big enough that he's likely to play very fit-or-fold OTF.

I realize a 75 bb (30 BB with straddle) stack is odd for most people to play but how would you react to a 4b here Garrick? Fold or call? Remember no reads.

I really wish I had made a big deal about the non-cheque cheque on the flop. it was so split second I was just trying to be friendlier this session and didn't want to explode, especially because I think the dealer who did it is probably with worst dealer there who has dealt for more than a month.

Assuming an AI 4-bet, given the age and demographic, I'd probably sigh/call. Against an average LLSNL V, I'd snap-fold. Aggressive working class Vs can often have a flip, and sometimes a smaller PP with a 4B shove, though obv all the overpairs are in the range too.