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Originally Posted by Javanewt
I'm not sure I open KQo UTG if I'm going to get called by five players -- or I go to at least $25 or enough to cut down callers. I mean, you are deep and easily dominated and going to be OOP. Is there little/no 3betting? Six-handed might make up for it, but it's close.
I guess check/calling flop is OK, but we really have only six clean outs. I might just let it go, especially if CO might re-raise BTN. Turn jam is fine, but might not be necessary. Just bet a normal amount (on the large size to make diamonds pay) to get them to come along. I guess it depends on reads and how station-y they are.
What live games are people making serious deviations in their flat calling ranges to 5x vs 4x? Seems like we are just spewing.
This is near the bottom of my 3x open range UTG and I’d likely fold it in a 4x open range.
Flop is questionable for obvious reasons. Drawing with questionable implied odds and dirty outs.
Turn is a really good card for our range and really bad for theirs. So I think we need to have leads. It’s an awkward stack size because I want to be betting more than half pot. But at the same time, I’d assume that they’d play well against a larger bet size. So I’m talking myself into a half pot bet. It’s either that or jam.
The problem with your bluff range is that I’d assume a draw as strong as 98dd/K9dd/etc would just bet the flop itself, so it’s hard to give you credit for a bluff when you jam. But against bad live players, it might not matter
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