1/3, stacks are $500eff. Some minor history but nothing that matters here.

In BB with T8hh. UTG+1 opens to $15 (standard in this game). Button and SB call. I complete in bb.

Flop: 73Jhhc. SB checks, I check, original raiser bets $35 into 60. Button folds, SB calls, I call.

Turn: 7s. SB checks, I check, original raiser also checks.

River: Qh. SB checks, I check, Raiser bets $60. SB folds. I call. He shows AQdd. We win


Obviously happy with the result but a few things I'm questioning:

1) should I ever lead river with middling flush on a paired board? I figured no so I don't get x/r but wondering.

2) can I ever raise for value on river if I think he has trips or worse? I felt like he was weak and playing face up but still check called.

Lots of issues here...

Depending on V, I would lead river pretty large to get value from lots of hands V would check back. If he is a decent V and will fire thin value, this line is fine.

V shouldn't have any combos of trips. Even the ones he had would bet for value OTT (2 combos A7s which is optimistic from utg1). Sure, he could have checked back JJ to trap, but its unlikely when pot is still multi-way.

AP, river should be a raise-fold...

Preflop should be a fold, this sort of hand is bad in a 4 way pot OOP. Having position on SB makes it a bit better but I still think you should fold.

Think you want to x/r this flop to balance out sets.

I don't think V is going to bluff this river that often so you should be leading yourself. Getting raised isn't a problem, you can just fold. Checkraising OTR is an interesting option but I think there are too many scary things on the board and he's not going to call.

Don't include results in your post.

Thanks both for the feedback and apologies on posting results, new to the forum, noted.

I agree my line was not good. Should be leading river. Def a 3b or fold pre.

Pre is super borderline but ok i guess, depends on if you know what to do post

Flop should be a x/r.

Ap river should lead

Vs bet otr x/c is fine

Don't really agree with this.

Raise from UTG and cbet into 3 players...almost always strength.

Also, we don't have many value hands on that flop to balance. We have very little FE, so with a caller in between giving us great odds to draw, I think it's an easy call closing the action.

Not necessarily. Some players will just cbet AQ/AK here bc they had a strong hand preflop and feel entitled to win the pot, or just don't understand ranges/bad board textures to bluff on. They can also cbet with AhQx or AhKx and AxQh/AxKh that have to fold to a raise.

If you look at a lot of threads on 2+2 one of the most common leaks players/OPs/Villains overcbetting.

The caller in-between is heavily capped and with a raise he's folding often.

Even if UTG has exclusively overpairs (which isn't true), we are almost or around BE on a x/r, assuming we have 0% fold equity too (which also isn't true, esp almost 200 bigs deep)

Way too results oriented, that's why results are better left out.

Cbetting too much HU or 3-way is one thing, but most V's rarely get out of line in a 4+ way pot. This is almost always TP+.

Just call...I am not referring to in-between caller's fold equity. He just gives us better odds to call.

You are getting almost 4:1 to draw and stacks are not deep enough for effective multi-street barrels if he calls your raise and turn bricks eg. Can't just say we are 150BB eff when live players raise so large pre. We have 1 pot sized bet left OTT if he calls our flop raise.