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07-06-2019 , 05:48 PM
Passive table. quite nitty overall and no fishes.

UTG opens to 10$
Hero calls from Utg+1 with KcJc

3 more people call including BB.

(50$)
Flop: 9hTsQs

Checks to Hero: bets 35$
Folds to BB: calls 35$
Utg: calls 35$

(155$)
Turn: 9hTsQs2s

Check x3

(155$)
River: 9hTsQs2s8c

BB bets 80$
UTG folds
Hero: ?
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07-06-2019 , 06:38 PM
Not sure that I'd flat KJs UTG+1 to a nitty UTG open but the rest of the table being nits helps.

Flop I'd bet pot or close to it.

Turn comes down to whether these guys have enough stuff they can call that's behind to outweigh the number of flushes available. I think that's not super likely given UTG didn't bet flop (so KQ/AQ and sets seem unlikely) and given BB is still in the hand after closing the action multiway preflop. Given the price he's getting preflop BB can have almost all FDs on the flop even if he is nitty.

So I think checking turn is ok.

River is the same kind of question as turn. Does BB bet enough hands we beat? We need to win 25% of the time so basically does BB have one quarter the amount of JX than the amount of flushes he has? That's hard to tell but unless he plays preflop with JXo I think he has more than 3:1 ratio of flushes to JX and you should fold.

On the other hand if BB flats preflop with offsuit Broadway and mid connectors/gappers and can bet river with less than a straight then it's a very easy call - but that's not very nitty!

Last edited by Ragequit99; 07-06-2019 at 06:48 PM.
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07-06-2019 , 06:45 PM
Snap call. You can't check turn to fold the nut straight, and raising only gets called by better. So obvious snap is obvious.

Bb could easily be value betting a J here.
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07-06-2019 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Ragequit99
We need to win 25% of the time so basically does BB have one quarter the amount of JX than the amount of flushes he has?
Jesus! Lol how did I ever pass any maths exams? Or English for that matter...

What I was trying to say was that villain must bet at most three times as many flushes as JX on the river. That is: V must have at least one JX combo for every three flush combos before we can call river profitably.
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07-07-2019 , 03:16 AM
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I called given the good price and BB having Jx here sometimes. Folding seemed way too weak. He showed KsJs missing a huge freeroll by not x/r flop
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07-07-2019 , 04:05 AM
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Unlucky dude, that's a really unfortunate vopler. Console yourself with the fact villain won the minimum. Also he failed to protect his hand from possible full house draws. Typical nitty behaviour though so your read of table seems accurate.
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07-08-2019 , 12:22 PM
I just fold preflop. We're in EP at a table with no payoff monkeys, this is unlikely to be profitable from here (especially facing a raise).

Flop really depends on stacks. If a PSB will setup a turn shove, I'd do that. If we have like 2x- PSB left, I'd just open jam the flop. If we have large stacks, I'd check/raise the flop. There's virtually no stack size where I like our ~inbetween smallish bet (nothing is calling $35 that is folding for $50 on this board, imo).

I'm fine with the turn check back.

I'd call the river. Sometimes we're beat by a flush but sometimes we beat the Jx straight (who could easily be value betting given the turn action) and we're getting a good price to see what spot we're in. Don't really see the point in raising unless stacks behind are super short as most nitty Jx will sigh fold anyways (so we just torch money against the flushes).

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