1/2 game - lots of action with regular straddles. Villian involved sits to heros immediate left. Has already shown a tendency to overvalue hands both pre and post flop, but his preflop raising range is pretty standard. For example, in a straddled pot hero raises to $30 with AK and villian calls with AJ and shoves on a KKJ flop. Bascially an action player who hates to fold and is capable of spazzing in certain spots but also somewhat aware of what is going on regarding tells, etc.

When this hand develops hero has villain covered.
Couple EP limpers and hero limps behind with 8s9s.
Villian raises to $12
3 callers including hero

Flop = KsQs8x

Check to villian who bets $25
Folds to hero who calls $25

Turn = 8x

Hero bets $75

Villian snap calls.

River = Qx

Hero only has about $130 left and hero shoves.

Now, I have two questions here: What is villians perceived range? And was leading the turn a mistake?

My thoughts were that villian most likely has AK and maybe KQ (which I think he would have just shoved) and a slight chance of AQ or QJ. I decided to lead on the turn because I basically wanted to build the pot and take control of the pot. I didn't consider check raising the flop simply because villian is a station and is never folding top pair and may even shove back. I also felt like I get paid more if I call and hit my hand. It also looks bluffy since its hard to put me on an off suit 8. I suppose I could have checked turn and go for the check raise as well. Regardless, when he calls the turn it is really hard for me to put him on a Q. I also felt like I could have just folded my hand preflop.

Thoughts?

We're out of position with a possible RIO hand multi-way (we're not comfortable putting too much money in with a 9-hi FD multi-way, and because we're oop we can't pot-control effectively.) Additionally, with us being $242 deep, whilst we BARELY satisfy the 20:1 rule of thumb for SCs, after factoring in RIO and being OOP, it's a fold pre I'm fairly sure.

As played, flop action is the best possible for us, since we always have a tonne of equity. Given V description c/c on the flop is fine (it would be gross to be shoved on here, since our pair outs would often be no good.) We always have the correct odds against any range HU to call.

Given V has a propensity to spaz out with TP type hands, I like the idea of c/r turn, because often this sort of V feels compelled to bet to price out draws. Additionally, this V doesn't sound like he's folding Kx+ on the turn (maybe not even Qx).

The snap call on the turn is very often indicative of a hand which picked up additional equity. However from the description he never has 8x here. As such the only hand he can have to have improved on the turn is AA (as KQ got counterfeited). However I have also seen AK/KQ type hands snap call in this spot, so his range is wider than AA.

The river card isn't the best for us, as KQ caught up, but AK and AA are calling a river shove anyway so it's a clearly profitable play regardless assuming he doesn't play draws this way.

Also, whether or not V plays draws aggressively factors into the hand somewhat. If his PFR range is 'standard', I'm assuming that the only FDs in his range are ATs and AJs, which is only two combos. If we add those two combos added to his range, flop and turn play are pretty much the same. However if he takes this line with ATs and AJs, there is a decent chance he will bet the river, since he seems to be happy to shove (he might even think his A-hi is good OTR, since JT and other FDs missed). Additionally, if he will shove AK/AA on the river when checked to, then river is a clear check/call.

Preflop is thin, I would rather fold here then call but it isn't terrible.

Flop is good for your hand, and turn makes it even better. You could lead, check/call or check/raise on both flop and turn. I like check/call on flop because you probably don't have a lot of FE based on villain description and probably need to improve at that point. Check/raise on the turn because you did improve and are likely to get called. On river your committed, no draws got there and you can get called by worse, so shoving is fine.

i don't hate the pre flop play, i like to see flops with hands like these (may be bad but idk)

i dont really like the lead on the turn, i strongly prefer a x/r because i think a x/r looks bluffy where as when you lead i dont think its ever a bluff.

I made a mistake - VILLIAN only had $130 left on the river - we have him covered FWIW.

If the other opponents are deep also it makes the preflop call better. Once your heads up it usually doesn't make a lot of difference who is setting the effective stack sizes. Sometimes there can be a mental difference when stack sizes are far apart, because a short stack is usually quicker to shove and less likely to call a shove. Here the pot is something like $250 and the effective stack is $130, it doesn't likely matter who moves in.