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01-30-2015 , 11:32 AM
$1/2

$200 Effective stacks (hero covers)

Hero - Played about 3 orbits at the table. One V keeps calling hero "the bully" because he's raised in the CO + button a bunch of times on his blinds. Hasn't showed down a hand.

V1 - 44 y/o black guy with a Yankees hat. Has loose-passive fish written all over him. On one hand he completed QQ from the SB and c/c three streets on a J64K7 board.

V2 - Unknown 30 y/o Asian. Unknown in that he hasn't played any hands. So, I guess it's known that's he's at least very tight pre-flop.


Pre-flop
V2 limps from EP
Hero raises to $10 with AA from LP ($12 raises were getting folded around)
V1 calls on the the button
V2 calls.

Flop ($27)
952
V2 checks
Hero bets $15
V1 raises to $30
V2 cold calls
Hero calls

Turn ($117)
2
V2 checks
Hero checks
V1 checks

River ($117)
J
V2 checks
Hero bets $30
V1 calls
V2 calls tanks for 2 minutes and calls

Thoughts?
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01-30-2015 , 11:36 AM
I like your line a lot.
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01-30-2015 , 12:03 PM
3-bet flop/shove turn.

You have a lag/aggro image. You need to exploit it.
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01-30-2015 , 12:10 PM
Bet more on flop. Bet turn to get stacks in otr.
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01-30-2015 , 12:20 PM
Since v2 is never betting the turn why not bet for value?
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01-30-2015 , 12:45 PM
I would've bet more on the river but other than that I am completely fine with the line.
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01-30-2015 , 12:48 PM
Flop c-bet needs to be bigger. Either 20 or 25. Small Bet sizing mistakes on early streets are compounded in later streets costing you a lot of value.
15 on flop + 30 turn + 60 river = 105.
25 flop + 55 turn + 120 river = 200
Bet as big as you think will be called by ranges you are likely ahead of.

In this hand, a 20 c-bet means v raise would need to be at least 40 instead of the 30, getting more money in the pot.

AP, I min 3bet to 60 with plan to fold to 4bet. V that check calls down with QQ will never 4 bet here with anything that AA is ahead of.

If v just calls 3bet, shove turn.

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01-30-2015 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BackDoorFlush
3-bet flop/shove turn.

You have a lag/aggro image. You need to exploit it.
3! flop would be bad after V2 check calls a bet and a raise.

I like the line you took OP but I would value bet/fold the river bigger. Somewhere between $70-$80.
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01-30-2015 , 01:08 PM
I would've bet river for bigger but other than that I don't see how I would've played it differently.
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01-30-2015 , 01:11 PM
Bet $20 on flop. I would bet call a shove on turn $50. That is a great turn for you. You now really only lose to 99, 55, and 52s. You counterfeit 95s and they can't hit a higher two pairs on river. Also you want to bet to charge 43 and set up a river shove.

If they have you beat when the second best card comes on the turn, it's a cooler
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01-30-2015 , 01:26 PM
Great line. I think your preflop and flop bet sizes are ok ($20 on the flop would be better). Do not re-raise the flop after a min raise and an EP cold call. Call with your aces, end the action, and evaluate turn. I think you wisely check the turn. On the river, V2 has passed on 3 chances to bet/raise in this hand. We probably beat his 9 or worse pocket pair. V1 strangely min check-raised then didn't bet the turn. Even if he turned a boat, you would expect him to bet. I think you correctly got for a river value bet, but it needs to be more, about $60-80.
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01-30-2015 , 01:32 PM
A little more otf, fine with flop and turn play though. OTR I don't know what to make of the black guy's flop min raise and I'd kind of just ignore it after the turn check behind, so Id just bet the most I can expect worse to call. You usually go for like 2/3 or 3/4 pot, but I don't know if these guys are thinking in terms of percent of the pot, they're probably just thinking absolute value in terms of dollars. I'd bet ~$50.
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01-30-2015 , 02:59 PM
$50 turn/shove river
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01-30-2015 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jesse123
$1/2

$200 Effective stacks (hero covers)

Hero - Played about 3 orbits at the table. One V keeps calling hero "the bully" because he's raised in the CO + button a bunch of times on his blinds. Hasn't showed down a hand.

V1 - 44 y/o black guy with a Yankees hat. Has loose-passive fish written all over him. On one hand he completed QQ from the SB and c/c three streets on a J64K7 board.

V2 - Unknown 30 y/o Asian. Unknown in that he hasn't played any hands. So, I guess it's known that's he's at least very tight pre-flop.


Pre-flop
V2 limps from EP
Hero raises to $10 with AA from LP ($12 raises were getting folded around)
V1 calls on the the button
V2 calls.

Flop ($27)
952
V2 checks
Hero bets $15
V1 raises to $30
V2 cold calls
Hero calls

Turn ($117)
2
V2 checks
Hero checks
V1 checks

River ($117)
J
V2 checks
Hero bets $30
V1 calls
V2 calls tanks for 2 minutes and calls

Thoughts?
Grunch
I would have bet 20 on the flop and 3b that minraise. I would maybe even go to 100 total but at least 80. Id expect V2 to fade away. If V2 sticks around I would probably slow down and reevaluate the turn. If not jam turn.
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01-30-2015 , 07:37 PM
I bet turn all day,but other than that...well played...in guessing V1 showed up with A-9 or 10-10 and Villian had exactly qq?
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