I wasn't trying to embarrass him I was trying to keep my image up because I had been very aggressive and wasn't getting to many showdowns

also as a live cash player this play is not profitable in the long run

but there are certain times in the moment or short run where you know a play is going to work

Epic spew.

Most respondents here think your play was bad and showing the bluff was bad, but since you know you read the situation correctly and were proved right and your reason was showing was right...what exactly are you here for?

If you just wanted a pat on the back, OK cool, I'm glad it worked out for you, nice hand sir.

Good reads and all that, but what I hate about this hand is that you showed. Sure, the actual villain got up and left. However, 8 other people saw you 4bet bluff. You're going to get called a lot in your future 4bets with these players. And while that will be great when you have AA, you're basically going to lose your shirt each time you try to bluff again. Unless you're planning to make this bluff every 15 to 20 hours of play, it is going to cost you a bunch of money. Always better to keep them guessing.

Fair enough on both counts. I agree that sometimes the time is just right.

This spot probably doesn't come up very often, so the fact that a suited A is much better might be more theoretical, especially if you have some reads on the other callers.

This guy's strat is kind of an interesting issue. I think he is probably mainly defensively oriented. By playing JJ and QQ this way, he is trapping/charging worse hands an inflated price. But, he is also seeing where he is at, and not getting stacked by AA and KK. When others just call, he can be pretty sure he has the biggest PP headed into a big pot.

It might even be a pretty good tactic for a guy with his skillset and disposition. Better than the people who open it for 12x with JJ and QQ and less with AA and KK?

In 1/2 or, honestly any game, I am 4 bet bluffing very, very rarely, so this would be a good thing.

I'm guessing it's the same for OP, because I very rarely see anybody 4 bet bluff, but maybe not.

Edit: Though I guess you could argue ALL of your bluffs get called more. But even then, if you told me everybody was going to call me down even more than normal in a 1/2 game, I'd be pretty happy.

I dont mind him showing. As long as he knows how to counteract them having that info. Manipulating people into doing what you want them to do is a big part of poker.

after giving my thought process I wanted to see how other competent players felt about it...........

ok I lied I really really really wanted a pat on the back

no but seriously I just wanted to hear from other players beating 1/2 isn't much of a ego booster lol

Also agree with never showing. You beating QQ with 9 high is a tremendous achievement and you want to be doing that all night long if possible. You're going to get dealt AA maybe once per session if you're lucky so trying to loosen up the table so you get action with these hands is just too rare, I'd much rather win dozens of pots without showdown instead, AND THEN let someone play sheriff when I have AA because they're sick of my ****.

I don't hate this, I definitely see myself doing this, although I would size up to 105 or something. If this play fails (I have done similar stuff and got myself into trouble more than once), it's at least good for your image. In my experience that is an invaluable part of (hopefully) beating the game.

What I don't like, though, is that you seem far too confident for your own good (and not only in this thread), which leads to your being somewhat belligerent. You would probably benefit by toning down on the ego-stroking. Try and be more open to other people's advice and opinions instead of challenging every response with a post of your own, like you do in this thread, making the question why you even started the thread a legitimate one. I'm certain it would benefit your game as well. Anyway, these are just my two cents. I,m not trying to pick a fight or anything. You're not obligated to take any of this seriously.