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06-15-2016 , 05:58 PM
So these felt standard in the moment but I wanted to see if 2+2 thinks so to.

Reads:
Villain 1- Older Reg, a little loose pre but not too bad. Seems to play fairly abc fit or fold post flop. No history with Hero.

Villain 2- Older loose passive old man. Limps really wide plays also plays pretty fit or fold, probably willing to chase with draws and call down lighter than he should if bets are small.

Hero: Playing TAG on my lunch break from work. Probably tightest at the table and hasn't been part of the limp fests that can happen to my right.

Hand 1

Game 1/3 NLH

Hero delt KQUTG

Hero makes it 10, folds to Villain 1 in SB who thinks it's a limped pot and completes, Villain 2 in BB checks before Deal explained it's been raised. Both Villains call

Flop(pot 27)
KQ3

Checks to Hero who bets 20, Villain 1 calls, Villain 2 folds.

Turn (pot 65)
A

Villain 1 checks, Hero bets 45, Villain calls.

River (pot 157)
3

Villain 1 Checks, Hero Checks.

Hand 2

Hero Dealt kk UTG+1

Villain 2 limps, Hero raises to 15, folds to Villian 1 in BB who calls, Villain 2 calls

Flop (41)
J83

Checked to Hero who bets 25, Villain 1 calls, Villain 2 folds.

Turn (Pot 90)
7

Villain checks, hero bets 55, Villain calls.

River (200)
3

Villain bets 60, Hero Calls.

Thoughts on all streets appreciated.
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06-15-2016 , 06:05 PM
Hand 1 seems fine.I thought maybe you could bet river for value, but when river pairs the 3 all Ax hands beat you so you'd be turning a made hand into a bluff, which doesn't seem necessary here.

Hand 2 I would go a bit bigger on turn. His bet looks like a blocker bet, maybe with Jx or something like that. I'd consider bumping it up to $150. How deep are you? If V1 is capable of bluff 3-betting you I'd just call, but otherwise would make a small value raise.
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06-15-2016 , 06:10 PM
Stacks?

GcluelessstacksnoobG
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06-15-2016 , 06:24 PM
Sorry for not including stacks in org. Post hero has about 330 in each hand, Villain has 500.
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06-15-2016 , 07:23 PM
Hand 1 - I don't see anything to criticize... sizing and action look about right to me. OTR is close....it's doubtful (but not impossible) V checked a flush or straight... and you could put him on a hand like KJ or KT. But if he could have that - he could have AJ/AT (would he peel one with a gutshot?)

Hand 2 - hmmm... my first thought was to fold OTR.. your description didn't make him seem the type to river bluff. I'd be imagining A3dd... but it's such a small bet - and he might have missed any number of FDs - that I'd make a crying call.
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06-16-2016 , 11:20 AM
H1:

Your table plays a lot differently than my typical 1/3 NL table if a $10 raise has a chance at narrowing the field. I'd limp this hand in EP, but your small raise did manage to narrow the field to 3ways and in position, so good result.

SPR is ~12 and we've flopped top two pair on a drawy board. We can play for stacks with three PSBs, so that's probably what I would lean to (depending on run-out). On this drawy board I'd actually slightly overbet the pot to $30 - $35 (no draws are folding to a slight overbet).

Not a great turn card as it completes an OESD plus can possibly make better two pair hands (especially if Villains are passive preflop). Also makes it less likely that weaker hands will call. But there is still a draw out there and our hand is likely still best, so I'd continue betting when checked to. My commitment plan is probably changing at this point, so I don't mind the smaller bet (instead of continuing with PSBs).

Any clue how Villain plays flushes/straights on later streets? Does he check them to trap, or eventually donk? You'd think he'd donk his flush (or check/raise the straight on the turn). We could still get paid off by a weak K, but we'd have to make a very small bet. Against ABC players, I don't mind a very small thinnish value bet here (like say a lol $35) because we're never going to get played back at here. Against more creative players, I'm fairly cool with checking this back.

GcluelessNLnoobG
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06-16-2016 , 11:25 AM
H2:

Looks like again we managed to narrow the field to 3way in position, so again a pretty good preflop result.

SPR is ~8 and we have an overpair on a drawy board. I'd plan to commit unless runout goes bad. So I'd PSB the flop and go from there. If we feel committed (do we?) then I'm not really a fan of the smaller bet sizing.

Not a great turn card as it completes an OESD, so again my commitment plan might be changing (especially thanks to our small flop bet).

I'm cool with just calling the river. This could easily be a blocking bet with Jx but it could also be a straight (or 3xdd that backed into trips) now making sure it gets value. I think we have to call given the great price.

GcluelessNLnoobG
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06-16-2016 , 12:09 PM
Hand 1 looks good.
Hand 2 is sort of weird.
If the board was Jd 8x 3d and the river was a 3 and he led I'm raising about 100% of the time for value as it removes all of his pair+fd combos that rivered trips.
As played, I guess it's just a call.

I think we are ahead of his range here, but without reads that he's a station I don't see us being ahead of his raise/calling range.
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