a $2/5 hand from Parx.

I played for about a half hour and the villain was fairly quiet. Middle aged black dude with headphones. I am a middle aged white dude without headphones. I bought in for $500 and now sit on a $650 stack and the villain slightly covers. I had 3 bet one time in a bvb situation and folded JJ face up on a K-9-x-9-9 board after my cbet was snap called on the K high flop -- I check folded to his shove on the river (he showed a K). I had also shown a winning hand on a monotone board when I flopped 2 pair; bet got raised and shipped which drew a fold from a guy holding the Ace of spades (nut draw). So not sure how my image is perceived.....

So I pick up pocket 10s and raise to $20 from mid position and only the villain calls from the button.

Flop is A10J I want to bet close to full pot on a drawy board really hoping he has an Ace. I bet $40 and he calls. Turn is the 2 putting the 2nd heart up there. I bet $125 and he raises me to $300. I shove it in. Like I said, villain covers me by a little here. Is this a standard line or do others take a different course. Thoughts on any streets welcome.....

Yea, well played. Nice turn sizing. Shoving is the only play when he makes it $300. Folding and calling are both terrible options.

PF: Standard

F: Pot is $47. Effective stack size is $650. SPR is 13.4. What range do you have on after he called your raise? Anyway…so we have a board of As Ts Jh. What kind of hands could he have that connect with this flop that he’ll call (or possibly raise) a pot sized bet: Two pair hands: AT, AJ, and JT. Pair plus gutshot: AK, AQ. Sets: AA and JJ. Nut Straight: KQ. Monster Draws: KsJs, Ks9s, QsJs, and 9s8s. I like the pot sized bet.

T: So after we bet $40, we’ve put in about 10% of our stack in the pot. The pot is now $127 and we bet $125. Now we’ve put in 28% of our stack. V raises to $300, after we’ve just bet pot twice and a blank comes on the turn; now alarm bells should be going off in our head. We don’t have the nuts, we’ve only put in 28% of our stack and we could fold. We decide to shove our remaining stack. When villain bets $300 on the turn, he’s put in 55% of the effective stack (your stack); of course he may not know that, but he’s asking you to play for stacks.

So before we shove we should be putting him on a range. Also we should know now that if we call, we are committed to the hand, so we really have the choice to fold now, call now with the intention of calling off the rest on the river, or shoving now. So after we’ve played the hand very strong this guy is raising us on the turn. Which hands would play the hand this way…well all the hands that are beating us: KQ, AA and JJ. KQ and JJ make sense to flat on the button after your raise. AA would likely 3bet. He probably doesn’t raise with the one pair hands like AK or AQ. The two pair hands could do this because villains always put you on AK ;-). I think most villains would shove a pair plus draw hand here for max fold equity.

It’s a tough decision here but our equity is pretty good, so I’m a fan of the shove. If he does have KQ, we still have a chance to hit on the river.

Agreed - V's range is strong. But we have a set and he could have AJ/AT/JT/AKh/AQh.

Also, if he had KQ/AA/JJ wouldn't V raise our lead alot w/ the wet flop against our range that connects with that flop? I'm shipping it in on turn. NH. Sorry he had KQ and you whiffed

Seems like a really standard jam. I guess some nits flat JJ pre but it's unlikely to run into that or AA, meaning we lose to exactly KQ, in which case we're still 23%. He shows up with AJ/AT a lot, sometimes JT, and depending on villain we can see hands like Q9hh here too, all of which we're ahead of. No reason to overthink this one if we did happen to lose the hand.

I can see some times where we're beat, and some where we're ahead. But no missteps in the hand, if you're beat it's just a cooler (and I'm pretty sure I have the narrowest definition of cooler).

I would get it in here, AA unlikely to flat so that leaves JJ, and KQ which are possible. He could also have any combo draw. We are drawing to 1 out vs JJ but still have 20% equity vs KQ so stacking off here is fine.

I gonna advocate a fold here. With villain's raise, you are in essence calling an all in so you would have to call 465 to win 545 (pot is 545, you have to call 175 immediately. Villain has ~290 remaining.) Therefore, you need to be good about 32% of the time. I doubt villain is making a move here also since this board hits your range. If we were deeper, then I could see a call OTT and check/fold the river if the board doesn't pair. The flop is so wet that most villains would probably not slow play a set of jacks or two pair. Also, I doubt villains would slow play two pair and then spring to life after you have been betting strong on a board that should hit your range. Even though he is repping thin, KQ is the only holding I can see him having given the way he played the hand.

He has AJ, AT, AQ, AK here way to often to fold. The only hand you are dead against is JJ, and unless we read him as super passive, he's 3-betting that preflop over a MP open a lot of the time.


I know turn raises are super strong, but we can't fold 3rd effective nuts in this spot for 125 BBs

this kinda 5hit happens to me all the time.
i know you wanted to beat the 5hit out of this guy when he showed KQ and your house didn't get there.

Thanks all. Many read through that villain had KQ (suited in hearts - so he even picked up a redraw... and river was a K to boot). While some may consider this a bad beat, I earnestly wondered if I should ever consider folding the turn in the hand and was happy to see that consensus agreed to ship it in.