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08-28-2017 , 03:06 AM
1-2 NLHE 300 max buy-in

Villain 1: 60 Y.O WG. Is dressed in ratty clothes and reeks of pot. Has missed his blinds many times to go outside for what I’m pretty sure is to smoke. Has a prescription bottle in his front left pocket. Dealers and players know him by name so it seems like he frequents the room. Is sitting on roughly 400.

Villain 2: 30 Y.O BG wearing a Harvard crew hat. Had his seat locked up for what must have been over an hour and just got back from playing a table game or slots. Seems splashy pre and unprovoked told hero we was ugly when he sat down. Hero made a joke to deflect and did not respond negatively to the statement. Hero has been trying not to play with the intention of stacking the player because hero knows this will affect his play if he lets it.

6 players limp an UTG straddle of 4. Hero looks down at JJ and bets 15. Villain 1 & 2 both call.

Pot ($61)
Flop comes:
A26

Hero bets 30, Villain 1 & Villain 2 call

Pot ($151)
Turn comes:
A26A

Hero checks and both players check behind.

Pot ($151)
River comes:
A26AT

Hero bets $65 and both players fold.

Spoiler:
Villain 2 tabled 34
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08-28-2017 , 03:26 AM
Looks ok to me

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08-28-2017 , 04:52 AM
Your preflop raise size is WAY WAY too small. Since UTG straddles to $4 it's like you're playing 2/4 instead of 1/2 so you need to double your raise size. With a UTG straddle and 6 limpers I'd make it $45 pre.

On an A high dry flop with 2 others in the pot I'll check the flop most times with JJ since there's no draws. There's also only 2 more overcards you're afraid of. You're either going to be way behind where one villain has an A and you have 2 outs or they'll each have a couple outs against you. If checked through you can then bet the turn.

As played, when the turn gets checked through I'd put villains on some medium PP like 77-99 so I'd make a small bet (1/4 - 1/3 pot) on the river to try and get a crying call from one of them. If one of them had trip aces on the turn I would expect them to bet it when checked to.
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08-28-2017 , 09:26 PM
That's pretty rude of that guy to call you ugly. What's up with that?
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08-28-2017 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CWsports
Your preflop raise size is WAY WAY too small. Since UTG straddles to $4 it's like you're playing 2/4 instead of 1/2 so you need to double your raise size. With a UTG straddle and 6 limpers I'd make it $45 pre.

On an A high dry flop with 2 others in the pot I'll check the flop most times with JJ since there's no draws. There's also only 2 more overcards you're afraid of. You're either going to be way behind where one villain has an A and you have 2 outs or they'll each have a couple outs against you. If checked through you can then bet the turn.

As played, when the turn gets checked through I'd put villains on some medium PP like 77-99 so I'd make a small bet (1/4 - 1/3 pot) on the river to try and get a crying call from one of them. If one of them had trip aces on the turn I would expect them to bet it when checked to.
I like your line way better than the one I took. I need to work on playing bigger pre. Not used to playing in a game with so many people limping the straddle. How do you usually size your raises in big limped pots? 2-2.5x the pot?

I think c/c flop is correct. My thinking in game was that players would believe me if I represented the ace because I had shown down mostly strong holdings. In reality, my bet probably looks like a poor squeeze and most of the time I get called in this spot villains range has a number of aces.

Obviously, the second ace is the gin card for us because it likely means neither villain has an ace and if they do we are going to hear about it. I take it you prefer a bet somewhere between 40-50 OTR.

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Originally Posted by SimplyRavishing
That's pretty rude of that guy to call you ugly. What's up with that?
Was playing at Twin River so you know how that goes. He said “you better have a good personality with a face like that”. Told him “it was a good thing he had a pretty face” as I dragged the pot and walked to the cage with his money.
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08-28-2017 , 10:59 PM
These aren't set in stone but at 1/2 a lot of players will size their preflop raises to 5x+1bb per limper so if you're first in to raise you would raise to $10. If there were 3 limpers then you would raise to $16. Also, if you are out of position in the SB or BB then you might add an extra bb to that. If it folds to you in the CO or BTN then some will decrease the raise slightly to 4bb instead of 5bb.

At 1/3 and 2/5 I see a lot of players use 4x+1bb per limper and at 5/10 a lot will use 3-3.5x+1bb per limper

In your hand their was a straddle to $4 and then there were 6 limpers so 5x+1bb per limper would be 11bb or $44. Since the straddle is to $4 it's like 1bb is $4 instead of $2
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09-10-2017 , 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by CWsports
These aren't set in stone but at 1/2 a lot of players will size their preflop raises to 5x+1bb per limper so if you're first in to raise you would raise to $10. If there were 3 limpers then you would raise to $16. Also, if you are out of position in the SB or BB then you might add an extra bb to that. If it folds to you in the CO or BTN then some will decrease the raise slightly to 4bb instead of 5bb.

At 1/3 and 2/5 I see a lot of players use 4x+1bb per limper and at 5/10 a lot will use 3-3.5x+1bb per limper

In your hand their was a straddle to $4 and then there were 6 limpers so 5x+1bb per limper would be 11bb or $44. Since the straddle is to $4 it's like 1bb is $4 instead of $2
Forgot to say thanks for this brotha. It's great advice.

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09-10-2017 , 12:48 PM
Grunch.

Need stack sizes (yours and V2's).

Way too small pre. Pot is $28 with your call and you put $11 on top. That's just a sweetener raise, suitable if you're playing to hit a set. It looks like you're in one of the blinds. I'd make it $35 to $40.

Flop is fine. No need to bet larger. When both call, I'm starting to take note of where the exits are. The most likely calling hand has an A, though some PP 77 - TT are also possible.

Turn is good. If we bet here, we're turning a hand with good SDV into a bluff.

River, I think I might just x/c here. An ace is possible, though it seems unlikely. I think leading out is mostly going to fold worse and get called by better. While LLSNL V's don't bluff enough, we look really weak here and someone might take a stab at it or even feel a T is worth some value. Betting isn't bad -- the T might well call but not bet. Obviously b/f. Smaller is better; $65 is about the max I'd go.

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To add to the good bet sizing advice above, as you get the pulse of the table, you can raise even larger if V's will call. I often raise 7x or 8x the blinds, +1bb per limper and still get called in two or three spots.

Also, I'd avoid giving V's responses to your river bet, as any results can tend to bias responses. Just end the action with your $65 bet.
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