Yep.

L/rr is a very good play in current environment that I’m seeing.
Villains are believing stories. So tell a good one. Needs good sizing, a deep stack, and a VPIP that’s under 25, better if under 20.


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As played snap fold pre. If you insist on limp raising this combo then you have to go bigger. Standard size for a 3 bet I guess would be around $70 but that doesn’t leave you enough for a flop barrel so shove pre. As played shove flop. I almost hate to write “as played” though because we really shouldn’t be in this spot.

Also, I would either top up or just call it a day. Playing with 50 bb’s seems way less profitable/fun.

The open limp rr bluff from ep is a really good play. But:

Use a good hand. I almost always use a suited ace. Blocker that has potential.

Seems to work best as a mawg. Though I've never tried it as a young Asian girl. Omc could print money with it, but never will. Though, how would we know?

Pick someone who will "know" that you always have KK+ ideal candidate will scoff at you for your predictable and value minimizing play.

A good time for false tells if you have em.

Probably wanna be deeper but not super deep. Raise to get the fold NOW. Whatever that means.

Did I say anything about this being value/bluff? I said it's a bad candidate to pull this move. If you want to experiment, pick a better hand, like ATs/KQs etc. Equity/blockers matter.

Obviously you're trying to get folds pre, so why didn't you shove?

The flop is spew because you have no equity when called. I doubt he folded a pair. A ragged low flop doesn't improve any of your whiffed high card hands, so he's not folding a hand that can beat AK. If you check and he checks back you can still bluff some turn cards.

You don't seem to like any of the advice you've gotten in the thread.

PF raise is clearly too small but I think it will work more often than some posters here think. A common leak I’ve seen is players 3-betting way too small so the squeeze to $51 will look big to a lot of 1-3 players, and 1-3 players that will call a $12 raise with a wide range will often tighten up a lot against a 3-bet to $51. But I still prefer a significantly bigger raise, and a bigger raise lowers the chances that one person will call, and that others behind him would see the large pot and also call.

I wouldn’t just limp in up front. You don’t know that a squeeze opportunity will come up when you limp in up front. And I’m skeptical of the $12 raise being a bet sizing tell. I’ve seen that sizing from a lot of players with strong hands so unless you have watched this player closely enough and for long enough to know it’s a bet sizing tell I wouldn’t pick this spot to attack him.

When it gets to the flop, a lot of opponents will quickly fold anything less than top pair or better to $110 bet, the board will often miss his range, and I’m probably okay with shoving because I think players at 1-3 are way too fit or fold postflop.

I don’t think there is much value to the idea that the PF play looks like AA/KK because people will call anyway if they like their hand enough and there have been so many times when I’ve seen people make those raises with AA/KK and they still get called.

But I would never play the hand this way because I would have dumped it PF.

I mean, ok if it worked but asking us whether we think this is a good way to play this hand at this table is another thing entirely.

The whole hand, IMO, looks like bored spew. You weren't having a good session at what seemed like a crappy table. So you limped in EP with a bad hand and then made the decision to l/rr 3! after a raise and a few calls. Then you sized it suck that V pretty much has to call with all of his raising range. If you had AA then great sizing but with 9 high, you don't want anyone to call.

Finally, once called you shove an awful board that anyone with a brain should snap call you on. Basically, I am not sure you made one good decision in this hand.

I’d rather limp/rr a hand like A2/3/4/5 suited (and I have)


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This is a good point. It sounds like this was a spontaneous limp/rr which is almost always bad.

Among other things, sometimes the other players will be able to get some kind if read. But also you'll wind up doing stuff like screwing up the sizing.

So you should, in the right game, get that suited ace utg and begin hatching you plans immediately. Just as a not would with aa.

Dumbo, do you think it's ok to limp with such a hand in early position with such a small stack? I mean, maybe it's ok at a passive table where you're pretty sure you're not getting raised. Obviously, that's not the case in this instance.
Obviously, you, being the superior player at the table, as opposed to all the fish, must have known this. That it's possible that your early limp with a speculative hand at best would possibly get raised.
You must have been paying attention to this, right?
I mean, what's one characteristic of someone being a fish afterall, someone who doesn't pay attention, right?

I see you have a thread in pg&c. I'm subscribing, this should be fun!

the problem of this stealing is that at this limit is poor of 3bets,so most of the players are calling huge hands like TT-QQ,AQo-AKs. So when u do this steal vs so weak players you will see some time a monsters,I like to steal,but not this stacks,not this position,be patient and wait for good cards,respect cards,dont respect ur time,poker dont have a time,u have here only small and big blind

I fold preflop the first time (OOP, very speculative hand, small stack where tight is right).

If we're going to make a move preflop, then with ~$50 already in the pot I'd just shove. But mostly shoving $160 preflop with 9 high is pretty meh, plus I still give credit to EP raises, plus I keep in mind others often do to (i.e. one of the callers can easily have a decently big hand they are never folding here for just $160). So I fold again.

Guess it would perhaps depend on the board, but once we've gotten ourselves into this spot I might shove too with just a << PSB remaining. Unpaired high cards will likely fold, and we might manage to get a small underpair to fold certain boards (and if they call we probably gave ourselves close to the odds we need for hitting overcards).

GtooFPSpreflop,imoG

It was really an off-the-cuff, let-me-try-to-win-a-cheap-pot-uncontested attempt. Obviously, sizing was off, so it failed. Next time I'll choose a better hand and better sizing. I might go out on a limb and actually use AA or KK!

Thanks to all for the candid feedback.

I think the fish at the table is not who you think it is.

I love that comeback. lol. Yeah, my sarcastic word play aside, that's actually a pretty awesome response. An honest introspection. A very good sign.
I've become a fan. Good luck.