Hi all,

1/3. Decently active table. Hero UTG ($400) and limp AKo. Five limpers and BB (TAG $250) raises to $20. I 3! to $65 to get heads up in position. Everyone folds except BB who thinks and calls. Pot $$138.

Flop: K-5-2r.

BB checks, I bet $35. Why go big here? I am either way ahead of QQ/JJ/10s or behind AA, KK. I don't think BB would isolate with KQ, but he could have AK as well. I figure lower pairs will have to call for this price.

BB calls. Pot $208.

Turn: 7. BB checks. I bet $65. BB tank calls. Pot $338.

River: 8. BB checks, hero?

Thanks,
DT

there's no draws so what's he calling with?

he's only got 95$ left
your still WAWB
bet it he's getting 5-1 he'll call

you labeled him TAG
but he's c/c c/c

slow played AA ????

I'm fine with the limp preflop.

Kinda weird spot in that a tight guy is raising to an amount preflop from the blinds after a world of limpers that is pretty much guaranteed to see a ~7way flop in any game I've ever played in. Anything to make of his sizing? Sometimes I limp AK to just call if a nitty guy opens cuz I'm hoping my IO against dominated Ax hands will be my money maker, but on the other hand I kinda hate going to a flop 7ways in a hugely bloated pot to the immediate left of the raiser and OOP to everyone else behind us (which is what will happen here if we flat).

So with just $250 stacks (we're not deep) I think I'm ok with playing for stacks. I would likely aim for an amount that sets up a PSB shove on any flop, where I'll then maximize my FE against strong hands like JJ. So I'd go $80ish preflop.

As played, I actually think I check back this flop and might even check back the turn. Board is drawless and we're just trying to eke out some more value against QQ- which are drawing to 2 outs / Ax which is virtually drawing dead against a tight player. If he has AA/KK we perhaps limit our damage (although doubtful at this SPR). I think there's just too good a chance we lose QQ- even with a small bet. Besides, SPR is just over 1, we can play for stacks in position whenever we want.

Same sorta thinking for turn.

If this guy is tight then we end up having the same hand here almost always unless he's gotten here with something like KQs. Anyways, I think I'm freerolling on a jam so that's what I do (and maybe I even nit fold out the other AK at this point).

GcluelessNLnoobG

I think flatting his open is the nut low. Why let small to mid pocket pairs in for cheap to flop bottom set on us when we have top pair? **** them.

Yeah, I'm not loving flatting here either (which is why I 3bet). I'm just saying against certain nittier players we might unfortunately have to change our initial plan and take that route. FWIW, a tight guy raising out-of-the-blinds after the world limps is pretty damn scary (no?), even if it is to a sorta lol amount that fully expects the world to call. I mean, it really depends on where on the tight/aggro part of the TAG spectrum he falls.

ETA: And of course we don't want to give setminers good odds to call, that's why we limped to reraise in the first place. But sometimes we have to at least consider changing our plan depending on who is doing the raising (and be less concerned with setminers than we are dumping our stack into monsters).

GcluelessNLnoobG

As played based off description
We chop with 6 combos of AK
We lose to 7 combos of AA and KK

Even if he folds half the combos of AK I don't think this is a bet and we arent deep enough for a bet fold.

True. I guess I’d rather rr and cross that bridge if I face a 4! or a preflop jam. V wasn’t an OMC. More like a TAG. He’d probably raise AQ+, 10s+.

You don’t think he would come out and bet somewhere here with kk and Aa?

Come to think of it, although he has only called down postflop, there is now actually some incentive to check back the river methinks. Basically because we limp/reraised preflop he's putting us on AA/KK, so he could easily play AA this way. He'd actually have to be on the fishier end of the spectrum to continue to call down with QQ-. A river bet is mostly a bluff to fold our chopping AK or sometimes hero fold out AA the more I think about it.

GcluelessNLnoobG

Shove.

You would know better than I would. You played with him. It's possible he's trying to trap you but you have to know your player.

Is he calling off with worse? I don't think so