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09-23-2017 , 11:06 PM

djevans

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 5,051

Hero $1000 - Same session as the AK hand but this hand happened prior. I am maybe stuck $500 at this point

Villain $1000 - Guy is playing pretty solid, but defiantly things are going his way. Asian guy who is middle aged. I forgot what he bought in for, but he is up.

1 limp
Villain on BTN goes $15 with A

Hero in SB goes $65 - I like to 3bet off suit AJ as they are a tad easier to play.
Only villain cals

$140
A

I go $70
Villain goes $140
I flat

$420
8

I check
Villain goes $100
I flat

$620
7

I check
Villain $220

UGG Fold???

Not sure about this hand at all, but defiantly a ****ed up run out.

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09-23-2017 , 11:34 PM

CWsports

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,644

defiantly?? Have you been drinking a little too much of that Appalachian moonshine?

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09-23-2017 , 11:37 PM

SometimesMonday

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 102

I assume it is hero with AJ and not villain like HH says.
I think you main decision is on the flop, as the min click is very suspect, so if you decide to call flop I think we call down.
The ace of hearts is on the board so I'm not too worried about the run out and cant think of many straight combos that get there and make sense (JThh maybe but seems pretty loose pre)
Anyway AP I call river

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09-23-2017 , 11:43 PM

Buster65

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Either check raise the turn, or fold to the flop bet, imo. You raised pretty big preflop, which means (in my games) that most Vs are putting you on AK, yet he still raises you. If you think he is doing this with a draw, a call is fine. Once he bets so small OTT, we need to decide if we are going with this hand or not. I would drop a pretty big raise on top, say 500. I would only call the turn if he is capable of barreling 3 streets with a bluff, otherwise, I don't mind him folding his equity OTT. If he is capable of running a 3 street bluff, and I call OTT, I am calling any river card.

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09-24-2017 , 12:19 AM

CWsports

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As played, I'm having an extremely hard time thinking of a hand that we beat on the river. One of the aces that we beat was AT and that now has a straight. Also, drawing hands like KhQh, KhTh, QhTh, Th8h, 6h5h, 5h4h, and even 8c7c and 8s7s that were open ended on the flop and picked up equity on the turn now have us beat. I'd just fold the river but before I did so I would ask villain if he will show his hand if you fold. From experience, about 75% of the time villain will agree to show. You'll then know if villain is over valuing Ace rag or if he's capable of 3 barrel bluffing with air.

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09-24-2017 , 02:23 AM

djevans

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 5,051

Lol ya my bad I'm hero with Aj.

I folded but was unsure of his flop raise. Seemed super suspect. I mean I beat nothing lol

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09-24-2017 , 02:28 AM

Eholeing

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Fold pre

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09-24-2017 , 03:15 AM

cicakman

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Originally Posted by Eholeing

Fold pre

Stop

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09-24-2017 , 03:45 AM

iversonian

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all streets are fine

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09-24-2017 , 03:50 AM

#10

Eholeing

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Originally Posted by cicakman

Stop

It's not terrible, but then again it's not great either

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09-24-2017 , 12:22 PM

#11

Black Lotus

centurion

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What's so bad about folding this pre? No rule that says we have to play extra hands oop just because we have AJo...

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09-25-2017 , 12:18 AM

#12

pocketzeroes

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Originally Posted by Black Lotus

What's so bad about folding this pre? No rule that says we have to play extra hands oop just because we have AJo...

It's the same rule that says we shouldn't fold KK pre... We're way ahead of BTN's 3x opening range. I hope nobody is actually serious about folding pre.

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09-25-2017 , 12:43 AM

#13

PFunkaliscious

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hate the flop action. It is either a Check/Call or Bet/fold, but not a Bet/call. muck the flop

when he bets 100 OTT, and 220 OTR, he is going for silly value. like a flopped set. or top 2.

as played, instamuck the river like your cards have AIDS.

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09-25-2017 , 01:00 AM

#14

pocketzeroes

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Originally Posted by PFunkaliscious

Can't just fold to a flop min-raise here as a general rule. I see people do this in a spot like this with any ace, their draws, etc...

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09-25-2017 , 02:00 AM

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Badreg2017

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I don't really like bloating the pot OOP pre with AJo. I would flat and keep weaker aces in his range and it's nice to save some decent aces in ours. I would 3 bet stronger and weaker hands. I would be more on board with AJs since we can not only have more nutted hands, but also better bluffing options.

Villain's turn bet is kind of baffling.

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09-25-2017 , 09:59 AM

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Playbig2000

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Originally Posted by Eholeing

It's not terrible, but then again it's not great either

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Originally Posted by Black Lotus

What's so bad about folding this pre? No rule that says we have to play extra hands oop just because we have AJo...

don't fold AJ from the blinds to a button raise after one limp from a "solid MAAG". I expect him to be wide in that spot. Unless he was a 90 year old nit who only plays AA, I would 3bet. Otherwise fold to the tightest of nits (even nits know they should raise AT and 88 from the button).

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09-25-2017 , 10:26 AM

#17

3verthing

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he bets 140 otf and then just 100 ott. idk. annoying spot for AJo

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09-25-2017 , 10:54 PM

#18

kekreturns

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Originally Posted by Playbig2000

Agreed, but can we mix in calls preflop (makes AJo near the top of our range)? Probably still going to play out ugly in this exact hand. But wondering thoughts?

I can't think of anything else in this hand we can reasonably question/mix. Definitely a fold on river.

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09-25-2017 , 10:58 PM

#19

Avaritia

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Flat pre, as played check flop

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09-28-2017 , 09:38 AM

#20

setmined

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Originally Posted by Avaritia

Flat pre, as played check flop

getting a little nitty in your old age, Ava?

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09-28-2017 , 12:35 PM

#21

jonrubs

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Originally Posted by Avaritia

Flat pre, as played check flop

I agree, we keep a lot of his junk in that would probably stab and we can easily call down this hand on a lot of runouts.

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09-28-2017 , 01:16 PM

#22

Tomark

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snap fold pre snap fold flop snap fold turn snap fold river.

reasoning for pre/flop/turn: RIO.
reasoning for river: cuz you arent even ahead of A2+.

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09-28-2017 , 02:02 PM

#23

johnnyBuz

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What the hell is going on with 2p2 over the last 1-2 years nit city up in hurr

This whole defiantly thing is getting me super tilted however

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09-28-2017 , 03:05 PM

#24

CWsports

old hand

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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz

What the hell is going on with 2p2 over the last 1-2 years nit city up in hurr

This whole defiantly thing is getting me super tilted however

+1.....I've already mentioned it in 2 of his posts....putting me on life tilt!! lol

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09-28-2017 , 03:07 PM

#25

CWsports

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funny thing is that I run an e-commerce site and someone left a review a couple hours ago and they also put defiantly instead of definitely

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