Villain is one of the better 2/5 players, moved up to 5/10 recently where I believe he is still a winning player.

He is the epitome of TAG as he normally 3bets as opposed to calling and doesn't play too many hands.

Also has a peculiar tendency of betting tiny on flops regardless of his cards or flop texture, and c-betting very very frequently. Usually gives up or bombs turns.

That being said, I have never seen him show a bluff. His 3barrells from what I've seen have always been nutted, but he actually gets to the river rarely due to playing around 12-14% pre

I have logged over 100 hours with him. He probably views me as a winning player but on the loosish side

Villain (1250) opens 9 handed UTG+1 to 20, MP2 unknown (650) calls,

Hero (covers table) calls on the button, BB (850) tight passive reg calls

4way ($77)

AA2

BB checks, V bets $25, fold, H calls, BB folds

Heads up ($127)

T

V leads $100, hero calls

River ($327)

7

V bets $275

AK+ should win the hand, only really losing to a turned 10's full. AQ I'm flipping a coin and AJ is a fold. If you don't have an A it's a little more interesting because flopped quad's is in play. Probably call with a flush or non-A boat but don't feel great about. Too much AK/AQ in his range to fold for me.

Definitely trickier to play if you don't block V's from A's.

If your description of villan is accurate, the hands he can possibly have are aj+ and tt, kqcc also.
Easy call with ak+
Aq i think must be really close but probably a fold,
Aj is a fold.

If he turns up with anything different here then your description is villan is not accurate.....

Based on your description he is pretty confident by betting out on the River here. I tend to agree that calling with less than trips here is no good ... pick you kicker.

I really tend to believe he's better than trips by betting River 80% of pot. He's really showing no respect for your range here and probably thinking that you would've taken a more aggressive action/line on the Turn with the board paired if you had a 'value' hand stronger than Ax.

How does V react to aggression? With his possible 'give up' on the Turn wouldn't we want to force that decision to take place on the Flop before another card comes out at his bet size? We have position and the Board is vulnerable to the flush draw. I assume we are ready to do battle with all our Ax hands on the Flop. Why let him dicate the size of the Flop bet and then leave us hanging on the Turn with a x/f? GL

About AK.

AK is the worst I call with. The fact that Villain went from his small bet OTF to ~80% pot on the turn might mean he is redrawing to a club. AxK. I think villain's range is pretty narrow here, either Tens full or trips. Of course KQ could be in his range but that's wider than the description in the OP. Since he bombed away I think his range is TT or AK (probably with the K)

If I have the K then I really need to worry about a boat here. AT seems out of his range but is possible. If I have any other flush, then that leaves a lot of trips with redraws to a flush. I'm still calling with AxK, but I am concerned. AxKx I call.

maybe this is important but maybe it isn't but villain probably discounts AK entirely from my range since I only flatted the button to 4x and a call. I doubt I ever show up with AK here and villain probably knows it. I can't think of any particular reason I would flat AK pre

Well dont slowroll the poor fellow

based on your description of villain leading out small as a cbet on almost all flops i like to raise this flop. firstly we have 5high which unimproved loses at showdown. so im looking to raise and take it down on the flop. raise to $100.

i like the call on the turn since raising this player should get him to fold worse stick around with better. that being said him folding his equity with trips is not terrible. however in case he has TT or a higher flush we definitely dont want to value own ourself and we need to pot control here. so overall calling turn is best. river cant fold cant raise. gotta call. im guessing he had TT but I think that hes going to show up with AK here a lot too. just raise the flop next time. be aggressive.

You've got a player that never shows a bluff. The nuts in this situation is quad aces, the near nuts are FHs and a pretty good hand is the flush. Trips are a bluff catcher. Don't call with bluff catchers against someone who never bluffs.

The bottom of his range is a flush. I'd want a K high flush or better before I'd call. The results don't matter. He's going to play the same way with a FH.

Pretty much comes down to likelihood of him doing this with AK/AQ. You're the one with over 100 hours with him With given info, probably AK?

The frustrating thing for me about these kinds of threads is that it's not just the hand value that matters. For instance, if we have AxKc, we block soooooo much of V's value range. He'd realistically have about 4-5 combos that beat us. While low clubs are a better hand in a vacuum and we'd beat AK, it would also add a few combos that we lose to (KQcc/KJcc/AA/ATs) back into his range.

Why are we calling $20 with 45cc?

Surely there will be better spots against these guys?

A typical TAG has to be caught bluffing on occasion. If v hasn't been caught bluffing in 100 hours id label him as NIT.

Sizing is interesting. Does v open AT? I really hate to pay off v's who never bluff, and in game I probably don't call here.

This and AK+ also. Not a tough hand

Medium or high flush+. Most of his money went in when the flush completed and if he's competent, he would never put that much money in with just trip aces. So it's just a question of whether he has any bluffs and it doesn't sound like it from the description.

V has AK or AQ. anything that beats that

With this river sizing I only want to call with at least a Q-high flush, and even then I'm not too happy about it.

In game I probably call with any flush though, and probably AK too, if I had called pre with AK.

What hand would you rather call $20 with OTB against this guy and 2 other guys? Besides a mid pocket pair, Ill take 54s every time.

If V is a NIT, i prob tank call AK and flushes here but I'm not happy about it. Seems like V can have ATs, AK, TT, KQss or AKxc.

AQ I think? Maybe AJ? He could be trying to play into you seeming loosish.

honestly there isnt much i get there with, id fold AJ, maybe even folding AQ, calling with AxQc for sure thought.

calling with 45cc is fine pre, so i guess im calling with every flushes

This.

On another note - he really shouldn't have that many boats here, just TT. So if I had a weaker Ax hand I would consider turning that into a bluff for sure.

Given that, I would probably just fold this. I'm bluffing with some hands I can have that are weaker than this and I'm calling or raising with most hands I can have that are stronger than this, so this seems like a good hand to pick to fold.

A flush. I doubt he's bombing the turn and river with AK/AQ here. If you have AQ that also really cuts down on the combos he can have leaving more flushes and boats and his range.

Without reading any previous replies, I would say that my calling range here is: AJc, AQc, any AK, 22, 77, TT, any flush.
So yes, I'd call with your 54cc, although that is pretty close to the bottom of my calling range.

More interesting is my raising range here: I would raise all Ax hands with no club (bluffs) and I would raise A2/A7/AT (Aces full). Villain can never call a river raise without Aces full, so exploit that by raising some weaker Ax hands which don't contain a club.

very interesting

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