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Old 03-30-2014, 06:55 AM   #1
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Learning live poker

Hey all, I'm currently playing online poker, been playing about a month now and loving the game, but my main interest in playing live, at my local casino and hopefully enter some tournaments once my skill level is adequate. the reason I've been playing online is because someone mentioned you can learn the basics faster because of more hands per hour etc. is this the right way to go about it?

I want to start playing live ASAP as im getting bored of online play. I want to start at 1/2nl stakes and I'm pretty sure I can start off with a $100-200 bankroll, but know nothing about what kind of bankroll I should have for live? and should i give up online play to pursue what i really want to do which is live play? my skill level at online is not the best as i can barely beat the macros. sorry if this is the wrong area to ask but any help is appreciated!
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Old 03-30-2014, 07:07 AM   #2
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Re: Learning live poker

You cannot have a $200 bankroll for $1/$2. That is one buyin, that is way too small.
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Old 03-30-2014, 07:26 AM   #3
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Re: Learning live poker

I can save weekly possibly $50-100 until i have enough to start playing but how much would i need? I don't want to start and lose it all because I'm not good enough for a live situation. sorry if i sound like a complete newby. I just have no idea
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Old 03-30-2014, 08:09 AM   #4
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Re: Learning live poker

Start out by playing online, if you put in $200, you get 40 buyins at the lowest stakes. You get to learn how to play, and all the basics you need for live.

I started out live with only a couple buyins, as long as you're ok with losing it, then its ok.

Games live are much softer, chances are online you'll get crushed 1 way or another when starting out, but for live you might just get lucky because its at a casino afterall, and most people are medicore. It's ok to pay for tuition online and then make more live with the knowledge you get.
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Old 03-30-2014, 08:14 AM   #5
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Re: Learning live poker

First off, good on you for asking. People who self-admittedly have no clue learn the fastest.

Standard recommendation for a poker bankroll is 20 full buyins--that means, for you, $4,000. However, as you're planning to play recreationally, and have the option of replenishing, you could probably start off with $1000 so long as you only put one buyin at risk per week. So save up until you have 1k, would be my recommendation. This also gives you time to keep practicing online.

Have you been keeping track of your winrate online? If you have, please post it.

You probably shouldn't play live 1-2 poker at all unless you can beat .05/.10 poker online over a decent sample size (I will defer to others as to what that sample size should be). I know, it's boring...but think of it as training. All good warriors have to train before they really go into battle, right?
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Old 03-30-2014, 08:21 AM   #6
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Re: Learning live poker

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First off, good on you for asking. People who self-admittedly have no clue learn the fastest.

Standard recommendation for a poker bankroll is 20 full buyins--that means, for you, $4,000. However, as you're planning to play recreationally, and have the option of replenishing, you could probably start off with $1000 so long as you only put one buyin at risk per week. So save up until you have 1k, would be my recommendation. This also gives you time to keep practicing online.

Have you been keeping track of your winrate online? If you have, please post it.

You probably shouldn't play live 1-2 poker at all unless you can beat .05/.10 poker online over a decent sample size (I will defer to others as to what that sample size should be). I know, it's boring...but think of it as training. All good warriors have to train before they really go into battle, right?

Good advice from Corlath here.


Probably constructive for your further development to keep up with the onlineplaying for some more time OP. To build a more proper bankroll for entering liveplay and to hone your skillevel. Focus on learning the benefits of position, how playing a certain hand change with different stacksizes and to range players in certain situations- like for example when they 3 bet or when they C-bet the flop.
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Old 03-30-2014, 10:57 AM   #7
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Re: Learning live poker

The first step is to read the stickies in this forum. When you do, you'll find we have a containment thread for bankrolls where you can ask this question. You'll find that many of the answers to your questions can be found there.

I do have one significant concern that I want to go over with you before I lock this thread. I suspect that your interest in poker is primarily the gambling aspect of it. Most players find live far more boring than online. If you are bored by online, it suggests that the stakes are too low for you and you are jonesing for putting more money on the line. Even at 1/2, you will find enough people who will gladly take your money as you gamble while they are taking the odds.

The hard cold reality is that people are attracted to poker because they are gamblers. The winners in the game (of which there are extremely few) overcome the gambling aspect and are frankly bored most of the time by the game. Now if you just want to be a recreational player and accept that you are going to lose money, then don't worry about it. You'll get lots of entertainment. However, you'll have a budget, not a bankroll. If you want a bankroll, prepared to teach yourself to get bored.
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