Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
KQss in a 3 bet pot - 1/3 NL at Encore BH KQss in a 3 bet pot - 1/3 NL at Encore BH

08-23-2019 , 01:04 PM
So this is one I feel like should be very easy and straight forward but it's more of a sanity check.

Hero's image is certainly winning, competent player (I'm sitting with $900 from a $300 starting stack in about 4 hours and I don't believe I've showndown a significant loser at all yet int he session - playing my absolute A game thus far)

Villian - younger rec in his late 20's who certainly is competent and somewhat capable, but I haven't seen him get out of line in the 2 hours he's been sitting. he is playing a fair amount of hands though Villian has about $400. The hand...

Hero ($900) in the CO KQ

Folds to Hero who opens to $15, Villian (HJ) 3-bet to $35, all fold to Hero who calls.

Flop ($74)

Q9J

Hero checks, Villian $45, Hero Calls

Turn $164

J

Hero checks, V checks behind

River 2

Hero checks, Villian $100, Hero ?
KQss in a 3 bet pot - 1/3 NL at Encore BH Quote
08-23-2019 , 01:53 PM
Pre is OK. That 3bet is so small that I don't mind a call, even OOP, but I wouldn't mind a fold vs. a competent player who probably has a decent hand.

Flop is OK. Turn is good. River is tough. I probably would have bet/fold about $75. This is kind of a soul-read, but I think I'd sigh call.
KQss in a 3 bet pot - 1/3 NL at Encore BH Quote
08-23-2019 , 05:05 PM
Thanks - I was thinking of block betting/bet folding there - I think that would have made my life a lot easier, and probably saved me money in terms of allowing him to put out the 100 etc.
KQss in a 3 bet pot - 1/3 NL at Encore BH Quote
08-23-2019 , 05:44 PM
River you cant really call, i would x/jam or fold, you dont win here very often. You have good blockers too. You only beat AK and you block that, and it literally doesnt make any sense for him to play AK this way altho some people would

You rfi co but got 3b by HJ?
KQss in a 3 bet pot - 1/3 NL at Encore BH Quote
08-23-2019 , 06:12 PM
I'm going to assume OP is HJ and Villain is CO.

I don't hate an open. Also think raising smaller is fine. Also think open limping is fine. The more I play, the more I realize the HJ is vastly overrated positionally (we often still end up OOP which is the only thing that matters regarding position, plus still have half the table to react preflop).

I fold to the 3bet. We're going to be HU OOP to a solid player that hasn't gotten out-of-line, can be horribly dominated (poor RIO), and otherwise have poor IO on a lotta hands we can outflop (such as JJ, which ain't going to lose much to us OOP).

Flop is where those RIO start coming into play. We're not exactly in love with calling a bet here OOP, and yet we mostly have to do it.

I also check turn and I'm pretty relieved when villain does too (although he could be tarping).

And now back to our RIO on the river. Is he pulling out a bluff with AK? Or just owning us with AA/KK/AQ/QQ/JJ/AJ/QJ/etc.?

Gyoucanlimitthedamageasbestyoucanpostflop,butprefl opistheonlystreetthatmatteredhere,imoG
KQss in a 3 bet pot - 1/3 NL at Encore BH Quote
08-23-2019 , 06:20 PM
River seems like a pretty clear fold. While we are ahead of AK (which we block), we are losing to most of TAG villains 3bet range. This is read dependent as you have stated in descrip of villain that they have not got out of line.

Last edited by SpinzFTW; 08-23-2019 at 06:28 PM.
KQss in a 3 bet pot - 1/3 NL at Encore BH Quote
08-23-2019 , 07:33 PM
This is a pretty clear cut call. You are at the top of your range here given your line.

If your entire sample size on V is 2 hours then you have essentially no information and should be playing balanced.

Given the fishy 3! sizing, I would expect V to be a possible button clicker and I would not exploit and over-fold here.
KQss in a 3 bet pot - 1/3 NL at Encore BH Quote
08-23-2019 , 09:49 PM
Yes all - sorry..I was HJ and V was CO

I think folding pre is very snug. Kicking in suited broadways when it’s 20 more with 54 in there? 4 betting seems spewy - I think suited A2-5 are better candidates to 3 abd 4 bet light

3 betting in 1/3 vs 2/5 and certainly 5/10 much less frequent but I’m not sure I can get on board w a straight up fold - he’s still got 375 behind ...so like 125 bigs but I also know it’s a much lower variance play and more standard in a 1/3 game so I get why some are saying this.

River ...he can certainly do this with AK ( we block - but we also block KK and QQ don’t forget) and he takes the same line with either I think ....he could do this with TT for sure but he could also do it with AA.....same line...AJ ? Not in his 3 betting range even if it should be ...same with AQ ...he does not have AQ, AJ, or QJ ever here or K10.

His range is TT+ and AK only....we block everything except AA, JJ,TT and we only beat TT....
KQss in a 3 bet pot - 1/3 NL at Encore BH Quote
08-24-2019 , 12:34 AM
AQ seems pretty std here. Also he will play many of his if not all of his AA/KK/AQ like this but his AK will and should check a dec amt, so the proportions cant be assigned equal weight, hence imo shove or fold
KQss in a 3 bet pot - 1/3 NL at Encore BH Quote
08-24-2019 , 02:25 AM
open smaller, fold to the three bet.

fold the river.
KQss in a 3 bet pot - 1/3 NL at Encore BH Quote
08-24-2019 , 07:25 AM
Anyway thanks for the comments I tank called after trying to get a read and he showed AA
KQss in a 3 bet pot - 1/3 NL at Encore BH Quote
08-26-2019 , 11:33 AM
Capable and competent player not getting out-of-line played his hand about as ABC as you could play it (his play is completely standard on all 4 streets, imo). We lost 60bbs when we should have just lost whatever we decided to initially put in preflop the first time around.

Gtheyarenotplayingbackatme,theyarenotplayingbackat me,theyarenotplayingbackatmeG
KQss in a 3 bet pot - 1/3 NL at Encore BH Quote
08-26-2019 , 11:52 PM
I open smaller. $10-$12. As played, I’m def calling the 3 bet. This hand plays very well and you’re getting 2.5-1. Flop call is fine. I think if you plan on calling Vs bet on the river, you should consider a blocking bet, fold line.
As played I think I’m folding the river
KQss in a 3 bet pot - 1/3 NL at Encore BH Quote
08-28-2019 , 03:47 AM
I’d strongly consider making it like 85-90 preflop against this sizing as a bluff. But generally against live 1/3 players, it’s ok to fold hands like this even if it’s exploitable for the price. They aren’t exploiting it.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
KQss in a 3 bet pot - 1/3 NL at Encore BH Quote

      
m