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KQs facing a limp RR from LP KQs facing a limp RR from LP

03-22-2013 , 06:12 PM
Table: Good table to be at. Everyone is really easy to read except for 1-2 spots. Mostly people I've known before.

Hero: I should have a pretty good image at the table.
I've been fairly active, but I haven't shown down any weak hands as of yet. About 45 minutes earlier I stacked V1 with QQ vs KK for a $600 pot.

He limped pre with KK, I made it 13, 1 caller, check raised it 45 and I flatted. We both had $250 behind. Flop was KJT, check check. Turn Ad, bringing a BDFD, he checks, I bet 85, river bring a non pairing diamond, he checks, I shove for ~180, he calls with KK.

Villain: He had been playing fairly solid so far, was up $150 or so from his buy in, before he lost the hand to me. Now he's tilting a little bit. He's been around $75 or so. Straddled on his button 2x, both times 3 people limped, and he shoved his $7 stack. No one has called him as of yet.

Hand:
Pre flop:
3 limpers
Villain limps
Hero raises to $15
Random calls
1 folds
Random calls
Villain shoves for $107
Hero?

Both the randoms are pretty known to me for the day and will likely call pre flop with Any Ace, Any pocket pair, and suited K7+ and any two face cards.
I expect them to call the shove with AKs and JJ+. Maybe not even JJ if I raise or call.

Just not sure what range Villain has here, esp when slightly tilting, and do I have the right odds to call with the dead money in the pot.

Thought?
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03-22-2013 , 08:12 PM
Even though he may be tilted, I don't think wehave any real evidence to conclude hes going to shove light here. Yes he only has like a 50bb stack, but in general we all know a limp/raise range from a random live player is going to be the nuts. My calling range here is prob 10s+, AQo+....You're far enough behind his range where the pot odds don't justify a call

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03-22-2013 , 08:29 PM
It's been my experience that a limp RR from late position by somebody that is short stacked is a good by not great hand, something like J10+ but not big pairs or he would have raised himself because he doesn't want it to go to the flop without charging everybody.
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03-22-2013 , 08:33 PM
its not worth it imo, u r behind his range and you are getting 2:1 ish

Not enough dead money to go to war for

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03-22-2013 , 08:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by playertee
its not worth it imo, u r behind his range and you are getting 2:1 ish

Not enough dead money to go to war for

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Yes, even with Villains range of 66+ A2s+, all the broadways, and 109o+ you are only 50/50.
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03-22-2013 , 09:01 PM
I wouldn't even consider it for the simple fact of the two random initial callers who are left to act after you. You provide absolutely no info on them, these guys can easily have a very strong hand behind you.
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