1/3, about 1am, loose fishy table, most hands blind-raised UTG, no live straddle
Table is 9-handed

V1 - UTG (40yo drunk white male)($500) blind raises to $9 before cards are dealt
V2 - UTG+2 (30yo Asian female, nit)($200) calls
Hero, BTN (loosish TAG image)($380) raises to $27 with KQ of clubs
V1 calls
V2 calls

Flop ($85) Kd Jh 4s

V1 opens for $25, V2 folds, Hero raises to $75, V1 calls

Turn ($235) - Ac

V1 checks

Your move?

Check for pot control. No need to turn your hand into a bluff, and we are probably not going for 3 streets of value here.

I check and try to get a showdown with the paired king.

Check and pray river checks through.

I think I would either overlimp or raise a lot more preflop. Our hand plays fine multiway, so we're ok playing it in position in a little bit of a juiced pot. However, if we'd rather play it for TP value, then I think we'd better thin the field plus setup an SPR where we'll feel comfortable stacking off too. In this case, that means a big raise to like $55 or so (where we are targetting the drunk blind raiser's stack, not the nit's stack). If we take down 7.5 bbs in dead money, not a bad a result.

So here's the problem with our raise size. SPR slightly less than 4, where stacks could go in just 2 streets, and trivially in 3 streets. And yet we offered the drunk guy pretty awesome implied odds of 20+:1 to make the preflop call. I find these spots difficult, so I avoid them by doing something different preflop.

As played, I'm not thrilled playing for stacks having given someone 20+ implied odds preflop. Board isn't terribly drawy, so I would just call the donk and re-evaluate on the turn in position. Raising leaves us with just over a PSB left on the turn. Feeling committed yet? If that's what you want to do, then fine. If we didn't want to play for stacks, then we had the option of just calling.

Turn is a pretty bad card as the OESD (basically the only draw on the flop) just got there, as did AJ. The Villain can still make us play for stacks with a shove on the river (which is a reasonable bet), but I'd probably try again not play for stacks by checking behind. Checking behind also gives us the option of attempting to bink our gutshot if behind for free.

I'm assuming we had a plan for the hand?

GcluelessplannoobG

i think we can bet / fold 100 here. He has a lot of Kx in his range and AK will be raising or betting turn. AK raises flop a lot of times. KJ raises flop a lot of times.

bet/fold 100, re eval river.

Why not b/f $100 OTR instead?

I'm assuming V1 looks at his cards after you raise? He's not playing entire hand blind?

get value now and if we betting at all its cause we are ahead here right and why can't we bet both? The board has so many draws and **** in it that smack his flop calling range, if it doesnt then I highly doubt a drunk loose tourney player will fold whatever he called a flop raise with for $100 PSB on turn.

IMO his range is Kx or Jx, like K3 type or like QJ, on flop. The A can bring in some gutter draws. I don't know what Ax hand that isn't 2 pair now that leads flop but checks turn when the 2 pair hits for him.

Normally this hand is probably 2 streets of value but i think with this spot we can bet turn and river.

You want to get two more streets of value with second pair on an AKJx board as the preflop raiser? Are you drunk?

There's no way you can get two streets, so check the turn. He might have worse Kx and you can go for small value OTR, or he might have QT. You're in a tough spot if you check behind and he leads river. I'd be inclined to fold but it's somewhat close.

I see like no merit in betting this turn unless we are already ready to turn our hand into a multi street bluff. checking turn and honestly ready to fold to most river bets. one of those spots where live poker is easy because we really dont have to ever worry about being heavily "exploited" in these spots

What Ax hand does he have here?

AJs, ATs, AK, QTs all seem as reasonable to me as random Kx hands that he will call 3 streets of value with

I basically had the plan to turn the hand into a bluff.
I went all in on the turn, Villain1 snap calls and shows Q-10.
PWNED!!!!!

Turn the hand into a bluff? Wat? What were you trying to bluff out?

Pretty hilarious that we have one guy ITT wanting to go for two streets of value and one who thinks he's bluffing the turn. You're both out of your minds, fwiw.

Trivial turn check.

Folding blank riv if he bets a normal size? Kinda feel like we should.

Pre is good, could probably raise more but w/e. Flop raise is unnecessary, just call. Turn obvious xb is obvious since we now have a bluffcatcher. Call small river bets, fold to bombs, do not bet rivers unless hand improves.

Jamming turn is ******edly awful.

Don't think poster was drunk/ha but according to OP villain certainly is. I bet here for value almost always against a drunk who bets blind preflop, calls preflop 3bet OOP then leads on K high flop and (just) calls a reraise OOP on this board. IMO he almost never has a Ace here. this sounds like a player who calls off 2nd best hands badly, we need to capitalize on it.
(also raise more preflop as mentioned)

This is a new one tho