v1-(TAG) mid 30's Asian. Loves to limp a lot of pots but when he raises he has a pretty narrow strong range. Tighter postflop doesn't really mix it up.

v2-(LAG) mid 20's Israeli kid. Very aggressive and can play a super wide range of hands. Loves applying pressure and can be very sticky.

Effective Stacks

v1-$650.00

Hero-$300.00

v2- $600.00

OTH

v1- opens to $15.00 (standard size at this game 12-15)

Hero- calls $15.00 from CO w/ KQ

v2- calls $15.00 from BTN

POT= $45.00

FLOP- Q97

v1- bets $30.00

Hero- calls $30.00

v2- calls $30.00

POT= $135.00

Turn- 5

v1- checks

Hero- checks ( what are your thoughts about leading this turn) I felt like I had the best hand here a high percentage of the time. However, I knew v2 was probably going to bet the turn if check too.

v2- bets $65.00

v1- tanks calls $65.00 tbh this was a surprise. I ranged villain with (JJ,1010,Ax maybe QJ but I felt like this was more in villains limp range) his range is narrow here because he loves limping pre with medium strength hands.

Hero-we have $245.00 left. What do you do in this situation. Thoughts about jamming here????

I like it. V1 looks capped, and doubt he's only check calling a monster on a wet board. V2 could be very wide here given description, so hands that are ahead of you are only a small part of his range. Draws, weak made hands and air is much bigger part of his range. We want to charge the draws, so all in looks right.

What position was V1 in to start the hand? because I would normally fold this pre to an ep raise. As played I can get behind a jam here.

I don’t like the turn check but there’s nothing left to do besides jamming at this point.

v1 is in MP

yea I agree I like leading turn better then checking in retrospect

Fold or 3b pre

Agreed with what's already posted:

Mistake 1: 3b or fold pre
Mistake 2: Lead turn

Now that you're here, jam feels standard.

Wow, that is what I call a favorable result! OK, i guess that's what Neeme calls a favorable result lol. KQ is a bad hand to call raises with but maybe i'm outdated on the question.

KQ is a very marginal hand to call raises with, especially if they are raises from a tighter player in early position, where they crush your range and you have a high chance of making a good but second best hand, like what happened here except he got away with one. V1 seems like more of a weak player than a true TAG to me, because checking the turn on that soaking wet board is terrible.

he wasn't EP I would have folded he was MP

and I agree 3 bet folding KQ is a better play

at the same time though I don't mind having it in my "calling" range

this player isn't obviously thinking on this level

but against future opponents

if we start 3 betting lighter we are just going to get 4 bet much more often

KQ isn't that difficult to play post flop I don't mind the call

also its hard to sometimes profile 1/2 players

1/2 TAG/LAG players are much different then a good 2/5 or 5/10 player (LAG/TAG)

also he said he folded AQ he didn't show so he could be bull****ing

IMO at 1/2 you can call more often because most of these players aren't capable of triple barrel bluffing therefore its easier to play postflop you just have to be willing to fold the semi top of your range more often

You can't say players aren't thinking on this level and then worry about getting 4b. At this level, 4b are super nutted hands. People at this level aren't seeing that someone's 3b'ing too much so they're going to 4b light back to counter. It's not going to happen.

Besides, 3b with KQo isn't a light 3b, it's just the bottom end of the value side of a polarized 3b range. Light 3bs are your J5s, 96s, 22, 33, etc, hands.

If you find yourself on a sticky table of fish, then you widen your 3b value range a bit more and get rid of your 3b bluff range.

It's better to see KQs in someone's call range than KQo, although that should usually be 3b too, depending on player/table dynamics. Also, KOo should generally be in your BB defend range as a call unless someone's opening way too wide in LP whenever you're in the blinds.

Misplayed throughout but you ran hot. Preflop is a fold vs a guy who limps a lot of medium strength hands but raises a very narrow range, as you say. Big leak calling EP/MP opens with KQo/AJo, but at 25-30 hands/hr they're far too tempting for many to let go of. Hell, even the so-called LAG knew not to 3-bet from btn with TT vs this guy's open.

As played bet turn.

Check-jam seems good but kind of unplanned button-clickery.

I agree with a lot of your points here..very well said

I wasn't worried about this villain was just talking about the future as I move up stakes

I just don't like the idea of "never" calling with KQ

against competent players I feel like our "calling range" would become very narrow and could easily get exploited postflop

against this villain I should have folded KQ but in the moment I widened his range a bit since he was MID POSITION NOT EARLY ( so I'm with 3bet or fold )

Your calling range is elastic and based on too many factors to really apply it here though and worry about it being too narrow. KQo might be in your calling range on the BTN vs. a wide CO opener, while it might be a straight-up fold vs. a tight UTG raiser.

So your point is correct, in that you don't want to be exploited when people know your calling range is only middle-upper SCs and 77-TT which is the standard ABC range people apply. There's times when AKo can be in your calling range when you're in the CO and there's a loose fish in the BB, for instance.