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02-10-2015 , 09:53 AM
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V1 - 40 y/o white Laggy spewtard. One hand, he 3-bet 92o pre-flop and called a turn all-in with 4th pair (said out loud "I need to be more aggressive" before that hand). Bets light. Calls light. Seems to just be there for the action. He's playing ~75% of hands, usually for a raise.

V2 - Old black guy. Playing LP overall. Seen him over-value top pair on two different hands. Plays a weak range pre.

Hero - Only been at the table 45 minutes. Possible losing image. Only played two hands. Raised UTG+1 with AK, short stack shoved for $40. Hero called, lost to 88, and didn't show hand. The following hand, raised AK UTG and c/f a bad flop into a big field.

$150 effective stacks (both Vs are close to $150)

Pre-flop
V2 limps in MP
Hero raises to $12 in CO with KQ
V1 calls in BB
V2 calls

Flop ($33)
Q64
V1 checks
V2 bets $15
Hero raises to $40
V1 cold calls
V2 calls

Turn ($150)
T
both V's check
Hero shoves (~$100)

Thoughts?
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02-10-2015 , 10:13 AM
Your line seems fine...hand pretty much seems to play itself.
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02-10-2015 , 10:14 AM
I think it's fine. (Hate the T, but I shove, too.)
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02-10-2015 , 10:34 AM
Pre is good. Call the flop. Hero has a great hand to play against someone who overvalues top pair. Let him do the betting. He's probably not leading with a set or two pair. You would think he'd raise with AQ preflop. If he bets again on the turn, raise. V1 can have anything. I doubt he beats top pair because he would have check-raised or bet the flop.

As played on the turn, shoving is your only move.
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02-10-2015 , 10:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jesse123
$1/2

V1 - 40 y/o white Laggy spewtard. One hand, he 3-bet 92o pre-flop and called a turn all-in with 4th pair (said out loud "I need to be more aggressive" before that hand). Bets light. Calls light. Seems to just be there for the action. He's playing ~75% of hands, usually for a raise.

V2 - Old black guy. Playing LP overall. Seen him over-value top pair on two different hands. Plays a weak range pre.

Hero - Only been at the table 45 minutes. Possible losing image. Only played two hands. Raised UTG+1 with AK, short stack shoved for $40. Hero called, lost to 88, and didn't show hand. The following hand, raised AK UTG and c/f a bad flop into a big field.

$150 effective stacks (both Vs are close to $150)

Pre-flop
V2 limps in MP
Hero raises to $12 in CO with KQ
V1 calls in BB
V2 calls

Flop ($33)
Q64
V1 checks
V2 bets $15
Hero raises to $40
V1 cold calls
V2 calls

Turn ($150)
T
both V's check
Hero shoves (~$100)

Thoughts?
Standard. SPR of about 5 versus two opponents with weak ranges and us with TPGK. Nice hand.
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02-10-2015 , 11:03 AM
It seems like the only thing to talk about here is whether or not this raise make sense on the flop.

My instinct here is to call the flop, not raise. I think you can still get it in by the river, and you are less likely to lose the callers with your race. That said, you seem to think both these players will call almost anything. So, I'm not sure the race is bad.
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02-10-2015 , 01:34 PM
wp. You could make an argument for going bigger on the flop, but as shallow as you are it really doesn't matter all that much.
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02-10-2015 , 04:37 PM
Flop seems like an overplay to me. Raising on the flop makes it very easy for villain to fold worse.
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02-10-2015 , 04:59 PM
Grunch

Two things that bother me here:

1) V1 is super aggro but taking a suspiciously passive line here. Do we put him on exactly 57s or 35s when he coldcalls the flop? Would he shove with those draws?

2) V2 sounds passive (old black guy) but leads out on this flop. Does he ever raise pre? If not, bear in mind that AQ could be in his range here.

Either way I think your play is fine based on just how wide their ranges are. I'd feel better about raising the flop if there was a flush draw out there / more connected, but I don't think we can just flat here with V1 in the hand. nh
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02-10-2015 , 05:34 PM
Your SPR is about 4.5.

PF: Pretty standard
F: V1 doesn't have a set. He probably leads with a weaker Q. Raise is fine.
T: I don't mind this play if we have TPTK, but we don't. What hands do we want to call? Q2, Q3, Q5, Q7-QJ, 57. I'd check here for pot control. Are we shoving to protect the 57 open ender?
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02-10-2015 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DeathCabForTootie
Standard. SPR of about 5 versus two opponents with weak ranges and us with TPGK. Nice hand.
+1
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02-10-2015 , 06:49 PM
I'm not sure I would raise flop... As played though I like the turn shove because if either V had us beat on the flop I think they would have shoved.
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