KQo in blinds, best action pre flop? - Page 2 - Live Low-stakes No Limit Poker Forum

KQ is too strong. Idc if 7 players limped. After people have telegraphed the strength of their hands by limping. I see no reason why to not raise KQo. If we had K10o it would be a decision. KQo is the nuts vs a sea of limpers.

Your wrong. Alot of people at 1/2 are huge stations and will call your preflop raise unless it's a huge one. The more people that are in the pot means the more straight forward we play even when it comes to the decision to cbet or not. I do agree that our hand is in good shape against the range of hands these guys limp call with but we still need to flop a pair or equity or eliminate a few limpers so we can actually try to take a stab at it if we brick.

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03-12-2013 , 09:21 PM

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Habeeb

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Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 110

Thanks all for advice. The players at the table were not limping much. I doubt I could get them to all fold unless I bet 20+ so my conclusion is that there would be no value in raising. I also think this is a really good point...

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Originally Posted by InfiniteJess

I have to imagine you're getting at least 2 calls. Build the pot to play a marginal hand out of position? I'd rather not. I complete.
It wouldn't really be a value raise and I'm raising stronger hands with shared cards (AQ, AK, KK, QQ) so flops you hit also are perfect for part of your value raising range, which if anyone's paying attention or thinking, will kill your action.

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03-12-2013 , 09:37 PM

#28

prairiebreeze

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Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 4,678

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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks

At 1/2 I comptely disagree. only 1 of them has to me limping with a hand that crushes you in order to cost you lots.

Qwing off suit belongs in either a limped pot or the muck.

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03-12-2013 , 09:57 PM

#29

AintNoLimit

Coach live/online NLHE

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,399

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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks

I have the distinct feeling that you are preaching a good sermon, but the church is dead empty. A player rise above the thinking that he must start with the best hand or lose, before even beginning to understand what the real issue is here.

Would many raise AK? Yes, but not KQ? Its basically the same hand vs 5 limpers and makes hardly any difference if a limper has AJ since he misses the flop most of the time anyhow and we have the initiative. A person either sees the trees through the forest here or doesnt.

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03-12-2013 , 10:02 PM

#30

mtagliaf

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Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,649

I'm raising if for nothing else than for image reasons. I want to become the table captain of this nit-fest. If you get 3-4 callers and whiff the flop, then check/fold. Mission still accomplished.

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03-12-2013 , 10:44 PM

#31

Avaritia

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Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 12,248

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Originally Posted by Tom Dwans Son

I'm normally super nitty from the blinds with a very polarized raising range but my view is contrarian to most of the previous posters as I think the dynamics are very good for a raise here.

1) KQ is a very strong hand 6 handed.
2) This is the first limped pot, making it unlikely that we are dominated here.
3) The table is playing fairly tight, meaning we will often win dead money or only get 1 or 2 callers.

If our image is good/tight then this is an easy raise IMO. Most likely villains have hands like connectors and pocket pairs.

This.

I am normally super nitty from the blinds as well, ILCD would probalby puke if he saw some of the hands I've completed and not raised. But table as described KQ is the nuts here.

Hero makes it $15 straight.

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03-12-2013 , 10:46 PM

#32

Clarkwt

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Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 542

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Originally Posted by Avaritia

I agree with this. 6 handed limped pot I'm pumping it up w KQ and I hate this hand.

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03-13-2013 , 01:29 AM

#33

Zohren

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 223

I glossed over the 6-handed part.
6-handed, I'm almost always raising here, but still proceeding with caution after the flop if I get more than 1-2 callers, obviously.

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03-22-2013 , 04:57 PM

#34

ATsai

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 2,409

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Originally Posted by AintNoLimit

I think it all depends on the range of the UTG limper.

If his UTG limp-call is strong versus KQo, then we should limp. If his UTG limp-call range is dominated by KQo, then we should go ahead and raise preflop.

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03-22-2013 , 09:48 PM

#35

Weeks

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 115

Raise between 12-16. Great hand to get a feel for the table dynamics IMO.
Just play fairly cautious if you get 3 callers or if utg plays back at you.

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03-23-2013 , 06:50 PM

#36

Supermonkey

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Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 7

raising this 100% of the time

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