I can't tell if you're serious or trolling. No one is advocating limping and then 3betting once SB raises. (That would be bat**** insane.) They're advocating raising in the first place when it limps to us on the button.

No - the first issue is how Hero played KQo on the button, given earlier action. The second issue is how Hero responded to V's huge raise from the SB.

Maybe I missed it somewhere, but I don't see anyone in this thread suggesting that Hero should 3-bet in this spot. Most everyone suggests a fold, actually.

RickAversion is the biggest troll in this forum and you all got took. Good work RA. I enjoyed.

Ok, let me try again.

Hero limped and then SB raised.
Obviously SB has a monster.
So, why would you tell Hero to not limp, but raise himself?
He would have obviously just gotten called (or 3-bet by Villain)

Ok, but KQo is not good against a miassive raise,
b/c Villain can only have QQ, KK, AA, AK, AQ ?

I ran PokerStove on KQo vs. Ax and it's 42% vs. 57%
Ok, so not exactly a coin flip, b/c of the chance of an A

The crux of this SB raise is that the A is the KQ killer?

Our motto here is never attribute to malice that what can be explained by lack of knowledge.

Rick, try to stay on point. Nobody said 3bet. At this point in your poker journey, I think it is just best to accept that while raising (not 3 betting) KQ is a good play, calling with it isn't. There are reasons for this, but based on your posts I don't think you have the poker understanding in several other areas to be able to follow the argument. These include ranges, relative strength and reverse implied odds. I'm not saying you'll never call with KQ, but until you know how to recognize when it is the right time to make an exception, it is best just to follow a rule.

Before you start sputtering about how you know about all that stuff, I've got a homework assignment for you. Tell us the best hand you can have HU pf against a pair of aces and why that is. Your explanation should include a discussion why the answer isn't KK. If you can do this successfully, no one will need to explain why calling the raise is bad. You'll know.

Is it T9s?

Answer to the actual hand is NOT important.

The journey is more important than the destination.

The only way you'll beat AA in HU is by 2 pair, trips/set, straight, flush, or boat.

So, I'd say suited connectors or pocket pair is what you need to start with
(rank doesn't matter b/c either they hit or they don't)

I'll go with suited connector (flush/straight draw) since there are more outs than just hitting a set.

Ok, I have no problem just accepting the rule that KQo should either be raised or folded, but never called. Raise gets you the fold equity, despite it being a crap hand. Limp may even be ok, since both cards are very high. But calling a raise (or 3 betting) is bad, b/c when someone raises, they often have KQo dominated. Is that correct? That said, I think this logic fails at an aggro table where people raise with anything, b/c everyone understands fold equity. That's why pros seem to call a lot more, b/c there is a lot more bluffing. At 1/2NL, no one is bluffing, almost ever. Big bet? Fold.

Raise pre. As played, fold pre.