First discussion post here on 2+2, so please go easy on me. Historically I've mainly been a NL tournament player, but recently I've starting to branch out into more cash play. I have had success over about 15 long sessions. Where I'm from the cash games are spread limit (generally $12-20 max). I'm out of town where NL is legal so this is maybe my 5th time playing NL cash. I've had success over those sessions, but I obviously have a lot to learn and this session I am $300 in the red going into the hand.

Villain 1: Loose aggressive but obviously knows what he is doing. The game is pretty passive so this player really stands out by raising high percentage of hands pre-flop. Earlier in the game 3-bet my EP raise from SB with K4s . Was stacked by V2 after betting $200 on busted straight on river when 2nd highest card community card paired on river. After this took a 45 minute break and returned to game just a few hands earlier. In those few hands he raised a couple of times already and ended up playing both of them against V2 -- and lost both.
Villain 2: Older player who calls a lot pre-flop but is pretty nitty post-flop

$1/3 NL (9 handed)
CO V1($300)
Button V2 ($600)
SB ($200)
BB Hero ($325)

Hero is dealt KQ

5 folds, CO (V1) raises to $12, Button (V2) limps, SB folds, Hero raises to $32, V1 calls $32, fold, V2 calls $32

Flop ($91) K,J,4
Hero bets $70, V1 calls, V2 folds

Interested in thought on wisdom and sizing of these first two bets.

Turn ($231) 9

Hero?

3b bigger pre or just call.

Cbet smaller OTF.

AP, with <PSBs left, can't see any other move besides shoving.

Make it more like $45 pre-flop, if you're going to 3-bet.

As played, there aren't options besides shipping, but I'm not loving my life.

Agree with others. Bigger 3bet (or just call OOP) and shove now.

jam seems std. consider checking river if holding a heart

I probably just flat here PF OOP most of the time for several reasons:
1. I don't like trying to out-aggro a maniac.
2. I don't like building a big pot w/ a medium strength HU hand OOP.
3. HERO's hand plays very well multi-handed, so I'd rather take flop 3-handed than try to get HU w/ big raise.

As played, it wasn't a big enough raise to fold anyone, so point 3 is only relevant if we're sizing our 3-bets bigger (which I would if I were 3-betting here).

I'd probably just flat preflop. V1 sounds like a difficult player and being OOP to him in a bloated pot is going to be difficult. Also, unless we're going to 3bet a lot more preflop, we have like zero chance of taking this down (a decent result), but then we're really bloating things with a marginal hand. I'd plan to play passively against him with TP and let him barrel off depending on what V2 does in the hand.

As played (i.e. bloating the pot hugely), I'd probably check the flop and evaluate the action. If V1 stabs and V2 gets out of the way, I'd probably just shove with these remaining stacks. If V2 gets interested, really difficult spot, although likely sigh shoving here too.

Not the best turn card as an OESD did complete, but at least the main draw didn't. We only have a PSB left. Against this guy, we're likely committed. If he's really aggro, it would be fine committing by check / calling the shove. If he can take free cards (which would be a disaster) we should probably just shove at this point.

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i like the squeeze for value. all in on turn.

Much prefer 3betting KQoff, and like others said, size bigger.

The problem now is, Vs range is super wide and we kind of have to shove (basically for protection only BC hes not calling with worse) even though shoving doesn't accomplish much. I honestly dont mind a x/call, but either option kinda sucks because pot is so inflated and we have 1 pair.



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Preflop: 3bet to 50$. You want to lower the SPR when you're OOP.

Flop is fine, but OTT I would probably check/call turn and check/call most rivers.