I open to 15 in LP with KQo; My stack (260);V1: Short stack player who doesn't like to fold calls with only 14 behind, V2(around 250):MP calls as well (fairly loose player);

Flop comes: 10JX(rainbow), V1 goes all in for 14 and V2 calls; my thought process here is that I'm going to have to go to showdown now to win this hand so raising seems futile, it seems like its better to call this and try and max out value the times I hit my straight/overcards so that's what I do .

Turn: J , (not sure about suits not too relevant here) I get checked to here and I check back for same reasons i flat called on flop. I don't care too much about semi bluffing when i have to win a showdown anyways . not sure if this is good logic or not.

River:K, (doesn't complete any flushes) V2 leads into me for 30, he has to win in showdown as well so the chances he is bluffing is very slim, the question is could he be value betting a weaker king here? i think he's loose enough to be doing that sometimes. I'm not putting him on AQ due to pf action, so i lose to q9, weirdly played jx hands, and not sure what else . AK is very unlikely as well. I block Q9 combos and KX combos so its kinda awkward , so hard for him to be bluffing here but i block the hand that im most afraid of (Q9) so it's a weird spot i think,


Let me know what you think about how I played any of the streets and do you call the river?


Thanks in advance

Pretty trivial river call considering the price you're getting. there's like ~90 in the middle and we have to call 30. Guy can definitely just have like K9 here making the call pretty easy. Yeah we lose here a decent amount but don't overthink these spots and just pay off the 1/3 pot sized bet in a spot where the guy can be value betting a worse hand.

I don't think we're ever folding here. Seems to be a K with no kicker. Or some kind of goofball missed flush. Given description of villain, this looks a lot like a weak King. Jx type hands would be closer to a psb for value.

Any merits to x/r here? I don't think loose passive villain is folding K10- for like $45-$50 more? Curious to see thoughts on that.

I am in position so I cant x/r. but yea it was between weak K and Q9 which was open ended on flop. I sensed strength here I really didn't like it even tho I called because price was too good, I never thought about raising here I think its a bit too ambitious.

Raising flop seems right here since it can #1 get you a free river, #2 clean up your outs against the short stack, or #3 allow you to win UI against some other straight draw that short stack has. Your equity against a 1 pair hand is not even that bad to raise for value.

As played... I think you can probably find a fold on the river in a protected pot. I think this is a jack or a straight a lot of the time and I'm struggling to find hands you beat. Maybe K9?

I agree with you, I was kicking myself for not raising flop here. I guess the all in player made me want to just flat call, yeah and I don't beat much at all on the river. I basically knew I was beat but the price was too good. I usually love to apply the pressure with two overs and a OESD. I kinda created the weird river spot by playing this one passive

If we raise and get V2 to fold a hand like QT, that's a big win for us. We're never in bad shape on JTxr when we have KQ. We're trying to make him fold weak hands anyway, so it's not like we have to bluff our stack off into a smallish side pot; the side pot will be substantial if we raise and V2 calls.