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09-11-2019 , 10:46 AM

DumbosTrunk

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Hi all,

1/3. Hero just sat down with a satchel of chips, plopped a few black ones onto the table. Only showdown prior: super shorty rips UTG+1 $18, folds to hero otb, min-clicks with QJo, wins v. QTo.

One unknown young Asian V limps MP, hero KdKs CO isos $18, SB calls, limper calls. $300 eff.

Flop ($50): J-9-5r. Hero $35, both call.

Turn ($120): 3d, bdfd. V donks $75, hero tank calls, SB tank folds.

River: ($270): 7s. V jams $180 eff. Hero?

Thanks,
DT

Edit: 8s changed to 7s otr.

Last edited by DumbosTrunk; 09-11-2019 at 10:59 AM.

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09-11-2019 , 11:17 AM

jtm1208

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Weird line by V. Can he have top fair to go with the flush draw?

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09-11-2019 , 11:51 AM

matzah_ball

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QJo hand seems bad.

As played, readless, river is a snap call (although knowing we’ll lose to something goofy a decent bit).

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09-11-2019 , 11:59 AM

AlanBostick

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Pot's laying 5:2; we only need to be good 28% of the time to be profitable, and villain's line is bizarre. Call.

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09-11-2019 , 12:19 PM

BlindingLaser

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Pot should be $155 on the turn / $305 on the river ($35 three ways OTF is $105+50).

I think I'd rather just jam the turn. V's line stinks to high heaven, why wouldn't they just x/r the flop? And why would they half pot the turn? This is just bizarre. I understand not wanting to blow the SB out of the pot but I think that ship's already sailed at this point, there's too much out there at the point we're deciding ($230 in the middle, $250 in our stack before we call the $75).

AP on river I call fairly quickly, bdfd didn't get there and V can still be going ham with AJ.

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09-11-2019 , 12:33 PM

Spanishmoon

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Originally Posted by jtm1208

Weird line by V. Can he have top fair to go with the flush draw?

Perhaps not but he can have T8s for sd/fd.

Are you raising this turn? I think I am. Board is too wet to call 3 way and 300 eff.

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09-11-2019 , 01:51 PM

sixsevenoff

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I would just jam the turn. Why is the river even a decision point?

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09-11-2019 , 02:36 PM

persianpunisher

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You can fold weaker Js, missed flush draws, missed straight draws. You can definitely have some sets, but I think we have to call all our overpairs. Villains can have combo draws with J or just AJ imo. Yes, sometimes we get stacked, but that’s poker folks.

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09-11-2019 , 04:48 PM

macktyson

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Agree with everyone, calling here in this spot. Too strong to fold on this board.

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09-12-2019 , 08:08 PM

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johnnyBuz

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Snap call. He can be playing AJ/55 the same way and there's 4x as many combos as AJ. Turn should be a snap as well -- are you tanking to hollywood?

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09-13-2019 , 02:19 PM

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shorn7

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It would be nice to know which card was a

on the flop. That might help with making the best turn decision. I suppose 55 could play that way, but generally guys who slowplay sets on the flop are going to try and checkraise the turn on a blank. The donk to me is more of a top pairish kind of hand, or maybe J9? I probably just jam the turn here.

AP I can't fold to V's line. Too strange.

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