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Originally Posted by dom80e
I still believe this is incorrect. A GTO is unbeatable, but it does not mean it is indifferent to strategies. The further we stray from GTO ourselves, the more negative our ev will be.
For example. Say GTO plays around 25% of hands. If we were to open 0% we would forfeit all blinds, but if we were to play 100% of hands we stray further from GTO and lose more.
I don't want this thread to turn into me giving a math lecture, but you are mathematically wrong despite whatever you believe.
Your examples would lose money against a GTO strategy, it is true, but that is not because they are "straying from GTO"--it is because they are dominated. A dominated strategy is a strategy that is so bad that there exists a different strategy that does better against any other strategy your opponent chooses.
It is clear to see that your 2 examples are dominated strategies (and therefore would lose against a GTO strategy). Folding every hand you play is dominated by the strategy of jamming preflop with AA and folding everything else (which may, in turn, also be dominated by something else). Never folding any hand is dominated by never folding unless an opponent moves all-in when your equity against a range of any two cards doesn't justify the pot odds you're getting (which, again, might be dominated by something else).
The definition of a GTO strategy includes throwing away dominated strategies before you compute it. So your examples are totally irrelevant.
GTO is
by definition indifferent to strategies. Whatever you think GTO is, if it's not indifferent to non-dominated strategies, it's not GTO. And by the way, for the record, as Kyle21 has also said, I have no idea what a GTO strategy in poker would look like. I am just talking about the math behind what GTO means.