1-2 nlh
90 Bb eff
I'm utg with Kk I raise to 12 standard for this tBle
Fold to mp older gentleman who I haven't seen do anything but play 100% abc in the two hours I've been at table. He 3bets to 24$
The rest of the table fold.

Now when he 3 bets me I think to my self old guy a 1-2 just 3 bet this gotta b aces right. But just incase its Ak or queens maybe the other kings I 4bet 45$ just to see if he'll 5bet cause then it gotta b aces witch he does to 100$.

Now this is why I'm so mad at myself I 4 bet thinking if he 5s it gotta b aces and I still call and with only 75$ behind call it off on a dry 10 high board on the flip.

I know it's kinda a cold deck but I think I shoulda folded should I consider this a mistake or a beat?

So you 4 bet to see if he had aces...

No exactly I 4 bet for value but thought to myself if this old nit 5bets I should fold cause he never 5bet with anything but aces. I'm basically asking should I of folded after he 5 bets??

You're sort of just sharing a badbeat story...

If you don't think he's ever 5betting without AA, isn't it pretty obvious that you don't have the odds to call?

I know in most situation that might sound crazy. But I've never seen ever and older guy nit 4bet let alone 5bet with anything but aces

This is why raising to see where you're at is a stupid idea. Flat the 3 bet so you play against a range of QQ+ AK instead of AA.

As a young un-nit what are the last five hands you five-bet?

Yhea ur right n I wasn't going post I though it was a mistake but a couple ppl I talk poker with said no no u gotta get it in there n I just wanted to see if most ppl would get it in in that spot

Wouldn't this hand be an example of raising to see where you're at working? I mean if he flats the 3 bet (we don't even know if this "old nit" is 3 betting lighter than Aces) and the board runs out undercards OP is getting stacked. As played he could have folded to the 5 bet and saved a lot of money. Btw I don't really understand the thread anyway, you say you know you should have folded to the 5 bet but then you keep asking all of us if you should have folded. To answer yes. And if you're going to raise so your opponent will tell you where you're at, the least you can do is listen to him.

Fair point I wouldn't 5 bet without aces ether in a 1-2 game n honestly I wouldn't 5 with um ether unless stacks dictated

Ok ok enough hate I got the answer I was looking for

No hate from me at all. I liked this thread

If I woulda just asked if you could get away from kings pre 90 bigs deep every says yhea of course easy fold

What makes it an easy fold is you saying to yourself if he 5 bets then he has aces and I need to fold. Following through on that is a big step in your poker journey. So you don't think I'm being hard on you I'll give you an example of a hand I went through like this when I first started playing. An extremely tight player who hadn't raised once in hours at the table makes a raise and I put him on a big pocket pair. I look down at pocket 8s. He Cbets and I kept going in the hand and stacked off for about 50bbs because "what if he had AK". Executing on your reads is paramount in this game, especially if they're accurate.

Maybe he has a hand like K7ss and he thinks he has decent equity vs utg 4Betting ranges. Snap call. After all it is 100bb effective. Maybe he's a 6max reg

Folding is exploitable imo

LOL

If I ignore the sarcasm, cool location bro

Humble brag but I 3!, got 4!, 5! and got 6! with AA the other night in a 1/2 game with effective stacks of $250. He also had AA.

grunch: fold

assuming he 4-bet...

if it's a normal omc i agree with your read unless you've seen him get tricky. even if you're "priced in" probably fold. this is the only type of player i would do this with. however, if you call or got it all in any sort of manner, you're not really "that wrong". you have KK. second best hand in the deck. it's always a cooler. if you found a way to sniff out aces and let them go for less than the effective stacks than good for you. if you didn't then whatever... you'll have more confidence next time.

Does he ever call your 4 bet with anything worse than KK? If the answer is no ten it was not for value. It actually had no purpose. The only time your play would work is if he either

A) calls your raise with ak,QQ and worse
B) always raises AA

If both of these are false (a good assumption for this kind of player) then you'd be better off just flatting the 3 bet. You'll make more money against his 3 betting range then you will against his 5betting/4bet continuing range.

See Spike run ...

Poker ...
1) Read the table, adjust your actions accordingly
1A) Read the table image of you, adjust your actions accordingly
2) Use math to influence your actions and reactions, but not for 100% of the decision
3) GO WITH YOUR READ, ESPECIALLY if the math is bad too
4) Have the guts to live with your actions knowing they were based on 'current' information (cant tilt for what could've been ... otherwise get up and take a walk)

AP ... take a Flop with the 3-bet if you think he will pay off your set (thinking AK)
AP ... fold to a 5-bet .. by 4-betting smaller too.

Yes, its possible he has KK also (and never QQ with 5-bet) unless you have a 's***' image at the table that will allow him to open up against your wide range. gl

Truthfully, IF you 4 bet, just go AI.

Don't 4 bet.

Never, ever folding KK for 90 bbs, unless the guy flips his AA right after he 3 bets.

Nothing humble about playing LHE bruh.

Thanks au4all

folding is exploitable if we fold and then tell everyone. At 1-2 i find that this type of action, from this type of player is always ACES.