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Originally Posted by boredoo
Kind of ambivalent here. Assuming limp/call then call/shove range for both Vs is JJ-55 and 45s to TJs and V2 will shove his draw....
Hero: KK 25.4%
V1: JJ-55, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, 65s, 54s 37.5%
V2: JJ-55, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, 65s, 54s 37.5%
Dead money when action to you is about $220 ($50+$50+$120).
Assuming V1 folds if you call shove, equity changes to Hero 46%/V 54%. In that case, you call $70 to win $200 or 3.1:1 odds
If V1 folds you're a 1 to 1.1 dog to win, easy call.
If V1 doesn't fold, you're a 1 to 3 or so dog to win... which is about even money.
Answer depends -- will V1 fold to shove?
I think I'm folding here and looking for a better spot, that flop hits both their limp/call ranges in the forehead. But calling doesn't look terrible either.
Those are not accurate ranges here IMO.
First off, V1 just flatted the bet OTF, so his range is not the same is V2 who shoved. Also, You didn't include any naked 8x, 9x and Tx type hands like AT and A9 in either range. I think we also need to include suited one gappers and possibly suited 2 gappers like T7s, T8s, 97s, 86s, etc... possibly even unsuited connectors and 1/2 gappers and hands like QJo and QT into V1's range.
To think this these Villains will limp call a raise with T9s but not T9o probably isn't accurate.