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12-21-2017 , 03:17 AM
this is a 2/2 live game at my local casino.
Villain1(SB) starting stack is around 1000€, villain2(BB) 450€, villain3(MP1)300€,me (B) 890€.
Villain1 Did not play that many hand that night yet and i've never seen him before so not much informationon him.
Villain2 is a solid player , i played with him several times and saw him getting most of the time winning pots or deciding on a good fold .
Villain 3 is a very loose player , someone who i caught bluffing a few times already .

I'm on the button with KK , MP1 raises to 14€,
Folds to me and i reraise to 44, SB calls,BB calls and MP1 calls.
Flop comes 10 4 7 rainbow and it checks to me ,i bet 58€ , SB decides to raise to 135€ than BB reraises all in and MP1 folds.
I was really confused because of both SB and BB check raising in this spot , thought atleast one of them would have a set and let the hand go.
I wonder what you guys think about how i played it , should i have done things differently ?


Thanks for your time

Lecentrale
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12-21-2017 , 04:25 AM
This appears to be set over set or set vs. over-pair. Maybe 1 blind flatted pre with JJ & the other QQ, but not likely. Absent anymore info & lack of reads, I fold.
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12-21-2017 , 07:07 AM
Easy snap-fold.
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12-21-2017 , 08:39 AM
BB can have all sorts of nonsense, but you're probably in trouble against SB. Assuming you cover SB, I would fold.
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12-21-2017 , 08:59 AM
The all in move is a bit questionable, I dont see why he would push all in with a set. The checkraise from the small blind shows some weakness too IMO. Well this is indeed confusing and not an easy spot.
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12-21-2017 , 09:15 AM
SB snap folded and showed 33
BB show me QQ after i told him i folded my kings.
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12-21-2017 , 09:31 AM
Main issue is your read on SB, but sometimes people just spaz. o/w sometimes you're just gonna get bluffed off of the best hand, it happens. In general, it's a very bad idea to let people know you make tight folds. Just fold quietly here.
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12-21-2017 , 10:26 AM
You needed more info on the SB to have considered the call here. Keep some notes on him
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12-21-2017 , 11:06 AM
I believe the spazz factor is nearly always higher than people tend to credit V. That being said, sick spot.
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12-21-2017 , 01:44 PM
I hate being captain hindsight, but if your flops go 4-way after a 3!, you need to size larger, although in this case it's somewhat hard to deny set-mining odds to the deep stacks.

At my game, this is only happening with sets. Board is mega-dry. No one would even dare re-raise with pocket 3s on a flop with 3 overcards 4-way. So this is a snap fold don't think twice about it situation.

The biggest problem is that SB's play was nonsensical, so that can throw off your reads. He shouldn't have been in the hand to begin with.
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