7 handed.
UTG: 180
UTG+1: ~80
BB: 200
I have them all covered

UTG, UTG+1, cutoff limp, I raise on the button to 12
BB, UTG, UTG+1 calls, cutoff folds

Flop($51)- 2 6 8 rainbow

UTG+1 leads for $14

What should my raise size here be? Surely this is a raise. Honestly I have no idea why he's leading out, especially for such a small amount. What should I make of this bet? That he's a weak player with no idea what he's doing?

I'm assuming this is 1/2? It'd be nice to have more information about the villains, but I'll just respond based off of the population.

I would raise pre to $20. $12 is way too small for any 1/2 game I've ever played in.

Flop I raise to $50. As far as his range, this is almost always 97s/75s/8x/99-JJ. I don't expect any of these hands to fold.

+1 to this.

The only thing that might be interesting is raise to the maximum size where we could rejam over his jam (given he has only 80), so raise to 40, perhaps get one or two callers, he jams and then we rejam. Ths may be over thinking things. If we don't think that's likely then I like 50. Also raise bigger pre.

BTW if we do raise 50, what are we doing to a BB or UTG jam? Sigh calling?

We have to, because people will do that with 99-JJ, and the occasional spew

I don't see why we don't just raise UTG+1's entire remaining stack. Isn't he the one that started the hand with $80? Meaning after this bet he has $54 left, i.e. less than a pot-sized bet? May as well just not overthink it and make it $68 total. This is especially true if we are intending to sigh-call the BB even if we raise smaller.

I raise to 47 and it folds to UTG+1 who tank folds. He shows an 8. I was surprised he didn't at least call. Perhaps he had a bad kicker, like 87

Donk bet almost always means they hit something (or have an OK draw and want to get through cheap) and want to make overcards pay, but they can't slowplay it and risk a checkthrough. Or they have a small overpair and want to see if its good.

Heads up I raise now. Other callers involved I still raise, but don't want it to be terribly cheap. He has something like an 8 he will get scared if an overcard hits and not pay then. I make it 50 here. Likely you are way ahead, you want to get called, but don't want to let him get a lucky 2 pair. I expect him to call and fold the turn when you bet again. If he donks again, I probably call. If someone cold calls, I'm shutting down a little.

I don’t think it’s quite a fist pump call of a jam but it’s nowhere near a sigh call. Really easy call at these depths and that board.

Like CMV, I'd put +1 AI, then evaluate if BB 3b shoves.
Can still get away, very dependent on the BB image.
Dry board, so sets/86s would weigh more heavily in constructing his shove range.

More preflop please. It’s 1/2 and you have 3 goonish limpers. I’d stick a fat $20 ball in their face.

Raise flop to like 40. Just small enough to where if UTG +1 jams, we can Re-jam.

As played, he’s getting almost 2.5:1 on a call against your jam, so if he wants to fold top pair, he can be our guest. A hand like 87 is going to be a 3:1 dog so it’s no big loss to not get it all in versus just taking what’s already in there. So if we ever have like T9s or something, we’re robbing the guy.


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Don't you guys think an overpair is unlikely for UTG+2? I feel like players at 1/2 tend to play aggressively and bet big when they flop an overpair out of fear of overcards coming on the turn and river. I'd be more willing to think the BB is more likely to have 99-JJ, particularly if he jams.

50 is too much here for a really important reason. You need to leave enough behind so that the action isn't closed to you. If he has 80, and you raise 36 from 14, the SB's all-in of 80 is a raise of 30 and isn't enough to open action back up again. At least, in most tables.

Raise to 38. It's a big bet in this game, and if one of the bigger stacks flats then the small stack says 'meh eff it I'm all in' you can push over the top easily. SPR works out that you can still stack everyone on the table.

This lead is a marginal made hand like 82% of the time a draw 10% of the time and legit value like 8% of the time. Raise or call are fine depending on how you think he will react to a raise.