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11-12-2018 , 01:59 PM
Villian ($550) is middle aged white chick that I followed to this table. She was spewing at my table and got a table change, then I saw she accumulated a large stack and requested her table. Plays a lot of pots, has a propensity to bluff and probe. Not afraid to gamble at all.



Hero (Covers all) UTG +2 with KdKc

Hero calls $2

Utg +3 makes it $12

Villian calls, 2 others call, LP AI for $15

Hero reraises to $57

UTG +3 Fold

Now here's where this hand gets interesting..

There was a debate at the table about whether or not I should be able to reraise or not with the $15 AI. After everyone agreed I could raise and play resumes.

Villian says "Well okay if he can raise, then I can raise right? " She gets the go ahead from the dealer, and makes it ~$130

Folds around.

Hero?
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11-12-2018 , 02:17 PM
She clearly doesn't believe you l/rr KK+ so let her stack off pre with 99-QQ AQo+. I go 280/gii, and don't fold post if she flats. Jamming pre is fine too, possibly better if you think it will look more desperate for a fold. Not a fan of flatting the 130.

Also just make it 60 when you raise. 57 is silly.
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11-12-2018 , 02:21 PM
Pretty easy jam, given reads, imo.
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11-12-2018 , 02:59 PM
I would lean toward ripping it all in vs small 5 bet. Call me crazy but I feel a small 5bet looks super nutted while a jam can be slightly wider. Just rip and hope she doesn’t have AA
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11-12-2018 , 03:09 PM
with that much action, the probability of her having AA goes down as some of the other callers likely have an A. Also, she is never going to just flat the 12 if she has AA and knows it is likely to go 5 handed. Your limp worked out and it looks like you are just trying to steal.

make it 250. Shove on the flop.
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11-12-2018 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by the_dude_174
Also just make it 60 when you raise. 57 is silly.
no ****. it just slows down the game and confusion to weak dealers. only do this if you are trying to specifically troll someone at the table.
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11-12-2018 , 03:24 PM
$85-90 pre if you’re going to l/rr. $60 way too small.
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11-12-2018 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by PFunkaliscious
no ****. it just slows down the game and confusion to weak dealers. only do this if you are trying to specifically troll someone at the table.
I feel like he was trying to make it $45 more than the $12, even though that's kinda useless given there's a $15 allin.
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11-12-2018 , 03:44 PM
$65 in pot. Raise is to small. Go $100 and never folding
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11-12-2018 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by PFunkaliscious
no ****. it just slows down the game and confusion to weak dealers. only do this if you are trying to specifically troll someone at the table.
I used to raise in these awkward amounts all the time, and its just not worth the effort. Most opponents at 1/2 arent good enough to let this affect them calculating pot odds because..... they arent calculating pot odds.

$57 is pretty small, I'd prefer like $75.

As played 5bet to $250-$275 and ship on any non Ace flop. Can't fold this pre against this Villain.

If an Ace hits, you still could ship OTF as a bluff (obviously not ideal), and honestly she might even be the type to look you up without one.
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11-12-2018 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mikko
$65 in pot. Raise is to small. Go $100 and never folding
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11-12-2018 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Chunkamunk
If an Ace hits, you still could ship OTF as a bluff (obviously not ideal), and honestly she might even be the type to look you up without one.
Nobody is calling $275 preflop with an ace and folding the flop when they hit that ace. Jamming the flop is solely for value.
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11-12-2018 , 06:30 PM
I would say more the 1st time $70. As played I can't see any other play but a jam.
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11-13-2018 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by the_dude_174
She clearly doesn't believe you l/rr KK+ so let her stack off pre with 99-QQ AQo+.

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This right here is about what I was expecting to happen. I took about 5 seconds before I jammed. She shrugged her shoulders and called off her stack with Ajo. We held.
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11-13-2018 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
$85-90 pre if you’re going to l/rr. $60 way too small.
This. Makes jamming on top of her 4! easier.

Now just don't fold.

PS. looked at results. Poker's alive!
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11-13-2018 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ImAllInNow
Nobody is calling $275 preflop with an ace and folding the flop when they hit that ace. Jamming the flop is solely for value.
Sorry If I was unclear. Yes no one would fold an Ace OTF for this hand.

I was saying that Hero shouldn't be terrified if an Ace hits OTF, especially because this Villain may be the type to look him up with QQ-99 or whatever she is holding because she doesn't want to be pushed around.
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11-14-2018 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jkpoker10
I would lean toward ripping it all in vs small 5 bet. Call me crazy but I feel a small 5bet looks super nutted while a jam can be slightly wider. Just rip and hope she doesn’t have AA
+1
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11-15-2018 , 02:54 AM
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There was a debate at the table about whether or not I should be able to reraise or not with the $15 AI. After everyone agreed I could raise and play resumes.
You didn't act on the $12 raise yet, of course you can raise.

I shove over the $130.
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