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Originally Posted by JayKon
NIce that you feel so confident that you're willing to ignore extra information provided by your opponents. Personally, I kick myself if I realize I've passed an opportunity to learn something - which is why I have my auto-hold button in the first place.
Now, I seriously doubt anything would have caused me to fold to the shove. However, knowing that a speech and strength tell from this guy doesn't mean strength, but most probably means "I'm excited to gamble, whatever my cards" is 100% worth knowing.
What do you mean by “auto-hold button”?
To be fair, you’re posting in an Internet forum and PAHWM doesn’t usually include super specific live reads middle of the way through the hand.
If you’d started the post by saying V2 was an OMC we’d maybe have reacted differently. But you started by saying V2 was a loose LAG. Everyone is basing their replies off of that, not off of a random “speech tell”. The fact you gave us that the dude is a spaztard overrules the other little live tells. In my view we learn a lot more from showdowns.
Even if the speech tell means this dude thinks he has a monster, a monster doesn’t have to be AA. If this guy is playing 80% of hands and he realizes the table thinks he’s a maniac, maybe he just picked up QQ and correctly realizes this is a monster hand for a LAG and nobody will give him credit?
Just never fold KK preflop at 85BB stack depth and you’ll be fine in life. Don’t overthink it mate.
If you did really 4bet to 170 (125 more) you’re getting direct odds to draw even if he flips over AA. So of course you can never fold in this particular hand. Which is why, if you want to consider ever having a 4bet fold line you would have had to raise to 135.
Personally I would have just shoved preflop since the small raise looks even stronger than the all in IMO.
Last edited by ChaosInEquilibrium; 04-07-2021 at 08:50 PM.