Villain is ~55 yrs old.[~$435] Not a Nit, but probably not aggressive enough. Saw an earlier hand where he failed to fire a 2nd barrel on the turn [last to act] when he had a pair of 5s & nut flush draw vs. 2 players who checked to him.

The river got checked & he lost to pocket 6s on a QT5K8 board.
He bet 3/4 pot otf, but failed to follow thru ott, after both Vs called his flop bet. Villain with 66 may certainly have mucked his pair ott when the K came to go along with the QT, if he had bet 70% of pot.

Hero has been doing rather well & has established a winning image, sitting on ~$950. Plays semi-loose, mostly tight & aggressive. Got most of the money from a LAG who had over 2k before he picked up the 1.6k that was left.

A tight player opens for $7 & a losing player calls, V calls in the SB & hero raises to $27.00. Everyone calls. 4 to the flop.

Flop: [$101 raked] 854

SB takes like 20 seconds, the dealer tells him it's on him to act. He has his chair turned around with his arms folded on the back of the chair & his chin resting on his arms. He quietly says [without looking at the dealer] "I know where I'm at. I'm not tired." It's 5am.

SB takes another ~minute, probably less, staring at the board, cuts out $65 & puts it across the betting line.

Hero believes V that SB thinks he would raise $27 pre with AK/AQ suited & that V may have bet otf what he did to charge draws & is holding QQ/JJ/TT. Plus, there are 2 Vs left to act, so he calls the $65 and the other 2 players fold.

Turn: [$231.00] 854[2]

SB takes at least as long as he did on the flop. He cuts out $200 from his stacks, as he had them stacked $150 deep. At first, it looks like he'll bet ~$175. Then $200/$225. Then he ships all $340 of his stack.

Hero is suppose to trust the old 1/2 NL adage "A player never goes all-in for a large amount with just one pair in a 1/2 NL game" and fold. Correct?

Or, is Hero to believe that V is trying to protect a hand like QQ/JJ against being drawn out on? Maybe he is freaking out from the clubs on the flop & has put hero on AQ/AK suited in s since Hero didn't raise the flop with his KK.........However, Villain isn't showing signs of fear.

Who knows what these old guys are thinking........

What exactly is semi-loose, mostly tight and aggressive?

What is your image in the eyes of villain? V cannot be thinking your are both semi-loose and tight at the same time, even if that is what you think.

As to the hand, you're toast. This is a set virtually every time. After you call the flop, your hand is pretty face up as QQ+. Do you really think he flats pre with QQ, JJ?

He ships it now due to stack sizes, and in case you have QQ or KK an A on the river could kill his action.

This seems like an easy fold. I think putting TT in his range is wishful thinking. You 3-bet preflop and he's shoveling chips into the pot at an insane rate. Even if he thinks you might have AKs, he's got to know that you might have KK as well.

I would call his range something like 88, 55, 44, and 87s-54s. You're 26% against this range. If he would also do this with 77 and 66, that bumps you way up (to 44%), but I seriously don't think that he will.

(I also think a turn barrel against two players in the history hand you posted is pretty questionable. The K really smacks the callers' ranges.)

I'm thinking a strictly tight player wouldn't o/r UTG with T9s for the same amount he'd o/r AA with. Also wouldn't raise on Button after say 4 limpers with 65 suited to $16.

Of course, this is all dependent upon the table dynamics. I thought, however, a "tight" player is playing nuttin' but really premium hands up front & not trying to rep something big on the Button when all he has is 65s.

Those are just 2 examples

I was thinking if they had a K they'd bet it. If they had a Q, the K may chase them off. If it doesn't work, there's always the nut flush draw. Unless, of course a V c/r the turn bet.

They guy was last to act & they both c/c flop, check turn.

Pre flop was too small here.
Esp OOP and with a few callers in front alredy.
$35 - $40 would be a little bit better I think.

Esp if we have an active image and might get looked up lighter than normal.
Flop flat seems fine, and turn fold seems fine.

Make it $40 pre

Raise to $50 PF.

On the turn, it's unlikely he's doing this with anything you're favored over.

On the previous hand, tons of weak tight give up the semi-bluff after it's called in two places. They figure they don't have the FE, and will take the free card if available. Probably mark him as weak tight.

$50 is way too much after $7, call, call. Are you just trying to get all weaker hands to fold?

PF Pot odds are almost completely irrelevant at deep stack NLH.

See Concept No. 28, NLHT&P.

No. Sitting on $950 [$650 profit] one can risk going up against 3 with KK so long as they pay a premium price pre. $27 pre when the avg pre bet is $10/$12 is a premium price.

Also, everyone in the hand has close to $500+ & you would thinkk $27 would get one 1 fold anyways.

Is there anyone who believes a call on the turn is warranted? I don't.

So, I'm out of town a few weeks ago playing & have 4 Regs at my table who are obviously well above avg. 1 of them gets involved HU after the flop with a Rec & otr there is about $180 in the pot.

The Reg puts the Rec all-in for his last $270 & the Rec calls.

The Reg shows the Nutz!

The Rec gives up & leaves. The other Regs asks him why he over bet the pot so much! Why not bet smaller [on a board that didn't make 2 big hands possible] so as to guarantee a call from the Rec.

The Reg says "Hey, this is 1/3! You never know if these Recs will put it all in light unless you try. Sometimes it doesn't work, but I find it does often enough to make it a +Ev play."

Anyone believe in this theory?

Passive OMC donks 4-way flop, ships turn? This is a lol easy fold.

More pre. As played, run away.

I take it you believe OMC shoulda' played his A4 suited with a c-bet for 50% pot on the turn?