1-3 Aria

Villian - (1000~) 40s black. Drives all the action at the table. 4 regs on the table all looking to play pots with him. He is a maniac in every way. been playing with him for over 2 hours and he is running like GOD. Never ahead when the money gets in and always gets there. Calling raises with ATC's. Calling flop bets with no pair no draw with no intention of trying to bluff on later streets in most cases.

Hero (650) - TAG but my read is this player is so bad he does not think about how any other player is playing.

Villian from UTG+1 raises to 15, Hero from CO makes it 60 with KK. Villian calls.

Flop is 892

Villian donk bets 100, Hero calls after maybe 30 sec

Turn: 7

Villian checks and gets up from the table and walks away about 15 feet. I look at the dealer and the dealer quickly shouts to the player to take a seat or his hand is dead.
Hero - Tanks and am definitely thrown off by the antics and checks behind.

River 2

Hero shoves about 250 into the pot recklessly while announcing 200 as the bet. I question V if he bet 200 and he states "Yes, I guess I put too much out." He takes back the 50...

so 200 to call. Hero?

Thoughts about any part of the hand and the antics by Villian are all free game.

Fold. I'd probably fold on flop also.

Against these types of players, I'm raising the flop, and shoving the turn. Just be prepared to re-load when they beat you. As long as our range is ahead of their range (this guy's range appears to be any two cards), then we should be shoveling money into the pot.

As played, call river. As far as his bizarre behavior goes, I have no idea. Maybe he's on a two day coke binge or maybe he turned the nuts. I'm not folding to this guy.

As played I think turn is a good spot to b/f $150, but since you checked, I think I just pay off his river bet. Gotta raise the flop though since we are so far ahead of his range and he will call with so many hands we're ahead of. The question is how much and what to do if he shoves? I think I min-raise the flop and call off a jam. It's high variance but since you are so far ahead of his range I think it's the best way to play against him. If he flats then I check back that turn card.

Did you consider folding preflop?

Maybe this is the best line given your strategy.

But seriously, why are we checking back the turn against this kind of villain on this board?

The deck has no idea that he's been getting it in bad and getting lucky. So, if you would please allow him to try and do so again. If he gets lucky then so be it. I'd rather get some value out of him instead of letting him do it for free.

Raise flop to $300 and shove turn, or just shove flop. And Jesus Christ bet the turn, let them kill his hand, and take the free $160

Is Villain bad enough to call a 3bet of $110 preflop? If so, I'd do that (and assuming we're ok with getting in 200bbs+ with KK preflop if needed), which will setup an easy stack off postflop (whereas with our raise size we can't stack off easily postflop). Otherwise, I'd consider flatting here (especially if there are some aggro's behind us / in the blinds).

Our poor preflop play has really setup a very difficult situation postflop. The SPR is 5, so we now basically should really be stacking off postflop if we have an overpair on anything other than totally ******ed boards. But our hand should also be fairly face up, and we just gave Villain ~15x implied odds preflop to outflop us.

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I agree that it we think that V will call a $100 raise pre flop with the same range that he will call a $60 raise, then we should try that, but at the same time, having KK, and raising to $110 against him, and having him fold is about the worst possible situation to be in. We can expect to stack him a large portion of the time post flop if we can get him to see the flop. So, risking that to get an extra $50 in pre flop to make it 'easier to stack him later' seems a bit too high risk.

I'd rather have him in the pot, with a SPR of 5 when we are destroying his range than take the 30/70 chance that he folds pre flop to a massive raise and only increasing our odds to stack him post flop by 5 - 10% and risk losing him and losing our best chance to get stacks in.


This is what I was thinking.

I'm considering shoving the flop here. It's only a 1.5x pot raise. There's $320 in the pot and we'd be shoving $490 more into it, and from what you've described he'd likely call it off with most of his draws.

If you don't shove, raise to an amount that makes it perfectly easy to get stacks in the on the turn.

^^^^ If you're cool with creating an SPR 5 pot and committing with an overpair while at the same time giving implied odds of 15x preflop with a "face up" hand, then I'm ok with preflop (and, honestly, this might be the one idiot at the table where we are cool with this).

You should have really shoved the flop or turn and raised more pre. You just have to ignore they are in GOD mode and play their range. Unless OP is exaggerating V's maniacleness, SPR and other advanced concepts really don't matter. Just shove all the chips in when you are crushing his range. He's calling. It's almost not poker anymore, but just pure gambling where you have tremendous odds.

I played against the same guy seemingly (different state) last night. 40's black guy with lots of bling. He came from a broken table with about $600 in a 1/2 game and went into immediate aggro mode grabbing a small handful of $25's pre just about every hand. For some unknown reason, people would call that then give him respect when he barreled the turn with another collection of $25s. I'm on his left and he is straddling every hand, so I wait. I'm down to about 70bb due to another GOD donk who just left. I doubled up calling his all-in pre with A7 (vs J7). Doubled up again by going all in over his $100 pre with AQs (he didnt show). Doubled up again with JJ vs. unknown (me shoving pre again over his $100). Felted him finally with AQ. You just have to be willing to put it all in when you know you are ahead and ride the train. On every one but one of those hands, I called the straddle then got it in pre. Only the last hand did I just call his raise b/c another player was in the hand and he was likely to call.