came for the hand history stayed for the peen-waving contest and half-a$$ theory discussion.
3/10 wouldn't recommend and now dumber for having done it.
the very obvious theory point that the soul readers have neglected is that folding incorrectly is a much bigger error than stacking off KK v AA. when you fold incorrectly you lose the pot and your opponent's stack; when you fold correctly you only preserve yours, which is inherently less valuable. given the massive equity advantage KK has against every non AA hand, if you are ever wrong then your play is a massive leak.
So on the turn, were you willing to bet $1120 (pot on turn + effective stack) that he has exactly AA? bc for those people saying to fold turn, that's essentially what you're doing.
everyone should be skeptical of one's own ability to accurately range their opponents on exactly the nuts with 100% accuracy. I've correctly folded KK pre and middle set on a dry flop, but those situations are so rare as to be memorable and your margin for error is 0. it makes for a great scene in a movie and a nice story, but winning poker actually has very little to do with making these kinds of reads.
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Originally Posted by Ragequit99
I folded KK to 3bets 4 times last year. Literally everytime villain showed his hand after I mucked face down.
Congratulations! if what you said is actually correct and the real frequency was 4 times in a year (not 4 times in 19 months or 4 times in 3 years, which sounds more reasonable to me) then you saved yourself ~200BB (100 PTBB) last year or about 50c/playing hour in a $5 BB game. If your win rate at 5/5 is 5.1 PTBB/hr then it only would have been 5.034 if you had gotten it in with KK in those 4 spots.
In other words, your decision to fold these spots is almost irrelevant to your bottom line. I guarantee there are about 10 other areas that would make more than a 0.06 PTBB/hr difference to your win rate if you addressed them. Figuring out when to fold KK against AA just doesn't matter, and if you're wrong it's way worse for your bottom line than if you're right.