$2/$5

UTG ($500) super rock limps.
Hero ($500) is UTG+1 and limps KcKs. There is a maniac 2 to my left who raises 50% of the time.
Maniac ($500) raises to $25 on cue.

There are 3 calls before it gets back to me. I repop it to $135 and maniac calls heads up. She can have just about anything here from any ace to any pocket pair to any suited connector to suited gappers. Ive seen her call $30 raises with J6 ect.

Flop ($350) And of course we flop an ace. Ac4c6d.

We have about $350 behind. Whats the play?

$110 on the flop.
Ship non club turns.

tough spot imo

I don`t like betting OTF. I would rather c/c to allow her to bluff when we rep a non-Ace holding.

If she is somewhat spewy-bluffy .. I won`t fold to any action.

If you check, how often is she betting?

Think c/c, c/r, both okay.

Don't see value in betting.

Check Fold seems bad, vs super wide range.

Check or bet like 90 dollars, both have merits. As to whether you can stack off, it really depends what sort of maniac this is. You're the one who's been playing with her. Make the judgement call.

Based on the "maniac" description, she will likely not be able to resist blowing you off your hand. I therefore would check.

Never not stacking off here though, not with SPR = 1.

I'd 3bet bigger though, if she's calling that wide. Maybe $175 so we have 2/3 pot left behind.

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Given her range and maniac read I think X/c is probably going to be best. Delayed Cbet turn for value if she X back flop.

How does v view hero?

This guy gets it.

I checked. She bet $225.

As to the question "how often will she bet if you check?" Is there really anyway of knowing that? Its not a spot that comes up all that often at all.

Maniacs tend to bet their air a lot when checked to. But 3! Pots are different. Some get way more straight forward.

When you say maniac and that she's super wide even continuing after the 3! I assume she isn't just folding all the flops she whiffs so I have to believe her flop betting range when checked to here has a lot of air. Particularly since you have something like 99+ and would surely bet much of your Ax (you can't have TP+NFD).

Have you observed her in 3! Pots?

Don't be that guy paying off the fish with KK on an ace high board for stacks. You even have the Kc, which eliminates a lot of potential flush type hands that villain could have.

I would check, if they then bet out $225 ...that does look a bit fishy but I think you can find a better spot if this player is as big of a maniac as you say. Check fold, but if they check behind and checked to us on the turn I would be betting.

Just gross. Folding is more than okay.

Definitely gonna hope to get in similar spot with over pair, or bigger.

With that sizing, I don't like flatting. As we are getting stacked when behind. Probably losing value when ahead. So just stick it in, or fold.


Fairly certain I just take the beat down.

Really not a fan of c/f this hand to a single bet. If you plan to get away from the hand somehow, better to bet 1/4 pot. You pre-empt some bluffs (an excellent thing to do when you're planning to c/f otherwise), and you get a bit of value.

I like a C/R for stacks here. Maniacs could easily be betting that flop for $225 with 77-QQ.

There's merit in folding and picking a better spot with a maniac, but sometimes, this IS your spot. You aren't always going to get an opportunity with a maniac where you have a huge hand and you get stacks in when they overplay a hand.

Mike, you saw her call a $30 raise with junk like J6o but this is her raising $25 (50% PFR is tight enough to eliminate J6o). Then she is calling $110 more. No matter how maniacal she is her range has tightened way down from the likes of J6o by this point.

How her range has tightened we don't know. I expect it probably contains a lot of Aces though. Say she continues around half her open range vs a big 3bet and that includes all AX. That is 14% of starting hands. Say she also calls another 16% of pairs, Broadway and SC. She has you beat with an Ace between 1/3rd and 1/2 the time.

X/C is the way to go for sure and bet turn small if she checks it back, like cAmmAnndo suggests.

Can I ever fold this? Not if she is properly maniacal to the point of betting her whole range vs our check. You'll get shown an Ace a lot but your read has to be well off for calling her down to be -EV.

Check, and get ready to get it in vs virtually any bet if her range is as wide as you say it is. Probably c/c, c/c. Or c/r if she goes really big ont he flop

With $375 eff stacks, I m all in.

I check raised all in. Obviously there are a lot of A's in her range but I agree that she will bet any pocket pair (probably thinking its a value bet) and probably other hands as a bluff hoping I fold to the flopped A.

x/gii against a pure maniac

otherwise i think this is just a read spot. How likely will this player put you on a big pair and try to get you to fold it? what's your image? if you're not sure how often this player will go for it with air in this spot, or what percentage of their preflop calling range to your 3bet has an A? then it's tough.

That's what I think.

SPR 1 against Villain, can't fold. Best line is C/C, C/R.

She's not a complete idiot, doubt she has J6 etc.

Heavy Read Spot.



RESULTS???!?!?!?

NH. It's rare that I find an opponent this maniacal I feel comfortable stacking off, but sounds like this is one such player.

I check raised all in because her range is as wide as the Grand Canyon. What hands will she bet on that flop after I check to her? Who can really say? I havent been in that many 3 bet pots with her, but Im confidant she will bet with less than an ace.

She had A6s.....I rivered a K

You prob should have folded flop and waited for set over set or nut flush v. lower flush to play with this maniac.

Fortunately for you, she made a mistake and didn't fold the river.

Did you even read this thread at all?