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07-13-2021 , 07:37 PM
KK in SB. $250 in stack. Playing 8 handed. Two limps and then button raises to $5. I reraise to $20. Feel this is too small out of position looking back. Only button calls. I’ve never played a hand with him so not sure how he plays and he has me covered.

Flop 842. He checks and I bet $20 into $46. He raises to $50. I called. So not sure what the right play was here. Do I raise to see where I’m at, fold or just call. He has all the sets here for sure. Turn is 10. I check and he puts me all in for $180. Pot was $146 and now $326. What do you do here?

Last edited by Siberian13; 07-13-2021 at 07:46 PM.
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07-13-2021 , 08:01 PM
Completely readless I guess I call. He could be going ham with JJ or QQ...
Dunno assuming it's never a bluff there are 9 sets and 6 AA vs maybe 12 JJ + QQ.
Probably the sort of fold I should make but don't
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07-13-2021 , 08:28 PM
Yeah I went through all of that. I removed AA. So it was just 10s to QQ and the three sets. Just not sure what to do on that flop check raise. It seems strong. He knows I have an overpair for sure if I call his raise. So the all in screams a set. I get in these spots and never know what’s correct.
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07-13-2021 , 10:12 PM
In the game I play in, they take that line with A8.

Call.
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07-13-2021 , 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Siberian13
Do I raise to see where I’m at
There are only 3 valid reasons for betting/raising and this is not one of them.
- value
- bluff
- protection (mostly in combination with either value or bluff)


I like the bet/call on the flop.
Don't see any reason to raise.

I'd fold to the turn bet.
There are no obvious semi-bluffs, except maybe the backdoor diamonds.
Villain is telling us he has one pair beat on the flop and continues his story on the turn.

I don't hate calling though.
As others have said, he could be doing this for value with worse hands.
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07-13-2021 , 11:06 PM
We're in the SB. How is BTN check-raising the flop?
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07-13-2021 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay S
We're in the SB. How is BTN check-raising the flop?
This is my bad and I will correct. I’m BB and he is SB. Sorry about that.
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07-13-2021 , 11:45 PM
Ok no clue how to edit. Even though it says I edited before? No edit button.
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07-14-2021 , 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Siberian13
Ok no clue how to edit. Even though it says I edited before? No edit button.
Only mods can correct a post after 30 minutes. I'd be happy to. However, your HH still makes no sense even if I make him the SB and and you the BB. On the turn, you check and he x/r you which he can't do if he is the SB.
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07-14-2021 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by venice10
Only mods can correct a post after 30 minutes. I'd be happy to. However, your HH still makes no sense even if I make him the SB and and you the BB. On the turn, you check and he x/r you which he can't do if he is the SB.
That’s ok. I got the answers I figured I get and I’m good with it. Late night/early morning posting.

And yes he did end up showing the set of 2s. I felt that’s what he had but still called. I was curious how often I’m calling vs folding that river. Is calling just an unprofitable play in the long term. I think yes.
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07-14-2021 , 10:15 PM
Against an unknown at 1-2 you would do best by folding to any river aggression 100% of the time unless your hand can beat some value bets
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07-14-2021 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Siberian13
KK in SB. $250 in stack. Playing 8 handed. Two limps and then button raises to $5. I reraise to $20. Feel this is too small out of position looking back. Only button calls. I’ve never played a hand with him so not sure how he plays and he has me covered.

Flop 842. He checks and I bet $20 into $46. He raises to $50. I called. So not sure what the right play was here. Do I raise to see where I’m at, fold or just call. He has all the sets here for sure. Turn is 10. I check and he puts me all in for $180. Pot was $146 and now $326. What do you do here?
With no information on the guy I fold. Hand is played fine. Unless you have seen him lose a big pot before this and he can be blasting off with AQ or something...

saw the edit.. okay now I have no idea what's going on. I saw a hand like this at 1/2 the other day where it went: couple limps, HJ opens, CO raises, everyone folds, HJ calls, Flop 9-3-2r, HJ leads smallball (like 1/5th pot), CO raises, HJ 3-bet jams 250$ into maybe 150$ pot, CO tank folds, HJ shows A9o.

Some players will occasionally spaz with TPTK on these super dry boards with 5 outs twice getting like 20% against an overpair + fold equity.

Last edited by Stupidbanana; 07-14-2021 at 11:28 PM.
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07-15-2021 , 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by OmahaDonk
Against an unknown at 1-2 you would do best by folding to any river aggression 100% of the time unless your hand can beat some value bets
Yeah I agree with that. He put me all in on turn and I reluctantly called. Is what it is. Probably a bad call at 1/2.
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