I am in CO with KhJh. MP limps, I raise to $10, BB calls, MP calls. Effective stacks $300. This is $1-$3 NL.
Flop is AhJc4h. MP checks, I bet $25, BB folds, MP reraises to like $75. I jam. Should I have checked back on the flop? Just call the CR?

raise more preflop, like $12-15

you can bet or check flop. hard to get value from worse, but you have so much equity. probably doesnt matter much in the long run.

i just call flop, you have zero fold equity and need to hit. you are not doing well equity wise and got rather lucky villain had AKo which was probably the worst hand he could have here.

I like the raise pre, but I would size larger if this is live ($13-15 here with one limper).

On the flop, it's better to play the hand as you would if you didn't flop the flush draw with it and check it back. You can't really value bet KJ on that flop and you have worse hands to bluff with and better hands to value bet with.

Pretty standard check back and then easy call if villain bets on blank turn.

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yeah i like this

Raise more pre. Flop can go either way - the deeper we are the more likely I am to bet to build a pot versus Ax hands which we are flipping against and flush draws. The shallower we are I x back and look to raise turn if they donk.

interesting, what are we repping with a raise?

is it becuase villain will instafold Ax without thinking?

No, because by checking we don’t isolate his calling range to Ax hands and can raise for value versus his turn betting range which is going to include a lot of hands that would have folded to a flop bet.

I should have given villain description. Watching his play he could have any ace and possibly literally any jack. His VPIP would probably be around 70. Over aggressive with second pair, etc. Hemce I felt even my pair of jacks with a king could be good.

From a metagame perspective we should be betting small on this flop with our entire range. From a more exploitative view i can see how we put this hand in our checkback range so we can have some bluffcatchers/strong draws vs a turn lead.

Not sure i like a flop check/turn raise line. Is villain really bet/calling with QJ?
I guess given villain description he is, but vs this guy we should just raise flop and go for it.

Usually when people bet small with their “entire range” otf they really mean 90-95%, not literally 100. There are some hands that serve as good bluff catchers, strong checking hands that cannot bet 2-3 streets for value but can serve as good x/c to strengthen x/c range, and obv give ups/bluffs that have 0 equity and looking to give up.

Imo flop is a std x/c.

I don't think betting is that bad if the player is a station.

When we get raised ripping it in is the nut low(we are turning our hand into a bluff because we beat almost none of his raising range)
We always get called because he already showed strength by raising. I don't think we have fold equity so we should just call.

The times I would be raising as a bluff is vs someone who can find a fold and has shown weakness.
Like we both check flop. They lead turn small when we turn equity. This would be my raise bluff.

I guess this is an example where I misplayed the hand and got lucky. I’m such a fish.

Def open more pre ~20

cc line is good.

it's great to raise pr+fd and other strong combos in multiway pots with legitimate fold equity, but there's too little FE here.

however, AP I'm never folding a hand as strong as nfd+pr and bet/jam otf isn't that bad at all. if this is the worst mistake you make in a session, don't sweat it. i think most players will lead with that much equity (nfd+pr) into unknown ranges and then continue to apply pressure to worse Ax on later streets. if that was your strategy in leading,and opponents are capable of folding A9 on a brick runout, then i prefer a lead too. however, if this is your typical old guy that can't fold top pair then cc him.

I'd raise larger pre. At least 15; I would have made it 20. Generally, I raise larger to better exploit Vs that are calling raises too much. On top of that, here we're raising mostly to steal or isolate, which suggests an even larger sizing. A small raise tends to build a big multi-way pot. That's not terrible with a hand like this, but I think it's more profitable to raise bigger to steal/iso and give ourselves more stealing options throughout the hand, since we can more easily threaten stacks.

I'm betting this flop all day long. We have a lot of equity right now -- enough that I'm basically happy getting stacks in, especially vs. described V. While another flush draw isn't particularly likely, we're obviously getting fat value from it (especially if he has a combo draw and will gii). I don't expect an A to fold, at least not yet, but I don't want to give some random PP or Q a free card to outdraw us. I don't think there are a lot of hands that will fold now but pay us off OTT.

If we check, we can certainly call a bet on a blank turn, I'd rather put that money in OTF when we have more equity. If we do bink the flush, it's going to look pretty face up if we check flop, bet turn. Betting the flop may give me options to move someone off an ace OTT or get check the turn back if that seems better.

Curious to carry this a bit further.

I agree betting the flop tends to tighten V's continuing range considerably -- likely to TP+ or good draws (of which there aren't many).

OTOH, V is likely to have hands that aren't calling a bet at any point in the hand unless they bink and avoid the flush draw. If we're not getting money from them later, might as well make them surrender their equity now.

If we check the flop back, we need V to either bluff at it or bet a hand worse than ours (presumably out of some misguided idea of getting value). I haven't had much luck getting LLSNL V's to bluff into me (though that may be a result of my playing style). Similarly, I wouldn't want to bank of V betting something like QJ (though reads on this V may make it more likely).

In any case, if we raise the turn, I'm not expecting any worse hand to call. I think aces will often call and jacks will often fold. Every once in a while, V will b/3b the turn and we'll be quite sad.

Thoughts?

If blinds/Button are tightish I don't mind a small raise here attempting to isolate. If the field is looser (where it will be much more difficult to isolate with a small raise), I also don't hate overlimping.

Even though we went 3way to the flop, thanks to our small raise we have a very manageable SPR of ~10 and in position to boot, so nice result.

I'm also betting this flop as we have decent equity against hands that aren't folding and good FE against some hands (like underpairs). And it will mostly give us options on the turn (whether we barrel vs take a free card). ETA: My bad, I thought we flopped a flush draw + gutshot. With our showdownable pair and not that much risk of overcards, I'm fine with a checkback (although I don't think betting is horrible as equity-wise we're still doing fine against Ax and it does setup a free card on the turn).

Any reads on the MP? A check/raise on the flop is typically fairly nutted, especially the more multiway we go, especially on this type of board where we're sucking up the majority of the draw outs. So with this in mind, I would rather lean to calling. The problem is that we'll only have a little over a PSB left for the turn, and he might shove that (which we won't have the odds to call at that point); but maybe he sizes his bet poorly. The benefit to shoving is that we make certain we see all 5 cards to realize our equity, plus we always have some small smidge of FE.

Geither/or,imoG

Preflop: way too small. My default is 4x bb + 1 bb for every limper. Make them pay.

MP is just raising, he isn't "re-raising".

But yeah, your flop bet is too big. The pot is going to be between 25-30 after rake as it stands, and you're betting nearly full pot on a AJ4tt board. There's no reason for this. There's especially no reason for it with your holding, which is a good holding for this board. You're effectively turning it into a bluff. You should be looking to bet much smaller on these Ace-big-little boards, maybe 1/3 to 1/2 pot.

As played, I mean you have equity against everything and if he's raising a hand like AT to "see where he's at", you get to lie to him now and win the pot immediately. Sometimes he also has like QhTh or 5h3h and you have him crushed. So yeah, go ahead and ram it.