Hi all,

1/3. V is middle aged Asian and generally plays TAG, on nittier side of the spectrum. V raises $15 in MP, one caller in between, and hero has KJcc on BTN. I considered folding but then decided to call since my position should make up for the range disadvantage. OK justification or silly rationalization? Hero playing $500, V about the same. One other caller. Pot $53.

Flop: Kd-9d-7d. V bets $25. Folded to hero who calls. All others fold. Pot $103.

Turn: 4s. V checks, hero bets $45 ranging V at this point on QdQx, JdJx, or AdQx. V calls. Pot $193.

River: 9h. V checks, hero?

Thanks,
DT

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I'm personally never betting this turn in position. Too many players will check AA/AK/KQ here (with no diamond, especially). You're generally in a WA/WB situation and you block the relevant straight draws, so I think I'm happy trying to get to showdown here. If you check back the turn, you can bet for thin value on a safe river if V checks back.

As played, you're esentially trying to get 3 streets of value with KJ. I don't think V is ever calling with worse on that river. Feels like a check back all day long. I'd find it hard to believe he bet flop and then called two streets on that specific board & runout with a bluffcatcher.

I also think you're assigning him way too small of a range just because he raised pre and cbet flop. There are way more hands he could have even if he's nitty.

Easy check back.

Check back.

If ahead, you’ve valued 2 streets with a hand that is not a 3-streeter vs. a tight PFR. What hands that are behind will call? That is the question to ask/answer.

Given the V descript, I also believe it is possible for him to C/C turn with AK/KQ/KK+. This is especially so if Hero has been aggressive, caught bluffing, showing down light, etc.

Check back the river ainec

Position obviously helps but I think you'll likely also need a huge advantage over the player himself before we can start calling with these dominated hands. If he's a spewtard who is just going to hand us his big stack, sure, whatever; I'll let you decide if he's that guy.

I'm also calling the flop. How are we feeling about preflop now BTW?

I'm also betting the turn.

If we do a same bet on the river we can probably get called by worse that hopefully put us on a busted draw.

ETA: If we're not able to bet TP on the river for value after all the draws we could have been on have busted, then I don't see how preflop can be profitable.

Gifwegetcalledbybetter,youcanmainlychalkthatuptopr eflop,imoG

Either check back river here, or another line is check back turn and decide rivers, or bet/fold river if checked to.

Never betting both streets here.

As for your justification pre, I'm never folding BTN here 500 eff. If some shortstacking nit makes the open I might be folding, but not this deep.

Gotta check it. Tempting thin value spot but he’s got very little worse Kx and he’s making dumb slow plays kind of often. Basically praying he has one of the 3 KTs hands. Almost better to bet huge trying to fold out his KQ, AK ... but no.

i'd bet $125 and i wouldnt fold my button to a single open 166bb deep.