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04-13-2021 , 10:19 AM
1/3 7 handed, Tuesday morning

Hero, SB - $300. - playing tag so far
V1- $800 - laggy, just saw him call a $65 pf 3bet with 97s on a $600 stack. He was calling a fish. That being said, he's a big winner and usually plays bigger.. he plays 5+ times a week ..
V2 - $400 - fish, played 75% of his hands so far. Business suit

Limps 5 ways including sb, Hero xs in the BB

15
K83 dch
Xs around

K936dchc
Hero 15, v1c, v2c

K9369dchch
Hx, v1x, v2r25, hc, v1r75, v2f, h?
Kh4c from BB - 1/3 Quote
04-13-2021 , 10:25 AM
u mean v2b25 right - as played fold he likely has at least a bigger king if not a 9 ball
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04-13-2021 , 11:22 AM
Easy fold. V1 could be bluffing but could easily have a big king or 9X. Plus it's a risky situation for bluffing because V2 could have the 9. You also have the problem that V1 could be bluffing with a better hand because your kicker is so low.

A call here is just bluff catching. Against a bad lag that isn't out of the question but it isn't a good situation either unless you have some live read. If you are confident V1 never checks a big hand on the river then a call here could make sense.
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04-13-2021 , 11:32 AM
I'm fine with preflop.

I'm fine with checking the flop. When a nitty player bets into a world of players on a drawless board, you're rarely going to get too much value from worse hands (apart from the really fishy players). So I'm cool with check/evaluating (and even leaning to a nitty check/fold in lots of cases).

Turn is really dependent on other players for me. Is anyone bad enough to start paying off a nitty player when he donks the turn into eleventeen players? Is anyone going to start stabbing at this pot with the world showing weakness on the flop? Is anyone else capable of checking TP on the flop on this board? Overall, I'm either/or. I think checking and betting are both fine.

River I probably just lean to a check/fold on this card and still multiway, although it depends on how bluffy V2 can be on missed stuff when checked to. The check/reraise is super strange from V1, but in the end our hand is just too weak to bluffcatch. He's also doing this with a betting fish in the hand (so this really should only be a value raise).

GcluelessNLnoobG
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04-13-2021 , 01:21 PM
Sorry, but I don't think K4o is worth $2 to play less than 9 handed. When OOP, I'm a nit ... so sue me.

Fold pre.
Kh4c from BB - 1/3 Quote
04-13-2021 , 01:28 PM
If we were in the SB, I would agree. But I think we're in the BB.

GcluelessNLnoobG
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04-13-2021 , 01:31 PM
Sorry guys, i am BB, the original post is a typo.. im not completing here in the SB with k4o..

Would a mod be able to correct my original post? It's not letting me edit..

I agree with all of the commentary so far.
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04-13-2021 , 01:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Playbig2000
u mean v2b25 right - as played fold he likely has at least a bigger king if not a 9 ball
Yes l, that is correct. V2b25 on the river
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04-13-2021 , 01:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JayKon
Sorry, but I don't think K4o is worth $2 to play less than 9 handed. When OOP, I'm a nit ... so sue me.

Fold pre.
Lol so he should just surrender pre then?
Kh4c from BB - 1/3 Quote
04-13-2021 , 01:43 PM
Fold. He's making a relatively small raise into two of you, he's looking for at least one call; don't give it to him.
Kh4c from BB - 1/3 Quote
04-13-2021 , 01:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black98Red
Sorry guys, i am BB, the original post is a typo.. im not completing here in the SB with k4o..

Would a mod be able to correct my original post? It's not letting me edit..

I agree with all of the commentary so far.
it was correct in the HH. It's all good.
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04-13-2021 , 01:59 PM
Sigh fold. You are beating only bluffs, and a checked preflop pot can easily have a 9 in your opponents range. The way the hand was played, he is going to think 92 is the nuts.
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04-14-2021 , 07:33 PM
You guys called it.. he had 98o.. and the more I think about it the river sizing is not that of someone who wants me to fold..

In game I just couldn't understand how he would give up a guaranteed $25-$50 in value, for the slight possibility of a check-raise on the river.
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