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JQ sb facing 2 limps and 5x raise JQ sb facing 2 limps and 5x raise

11-10-2014 , 11:57 AM
1/2 nl posting this hand because I need to work on my play out of the blinds. End up playing a Oesd oop for a big pot.

Stacks all 200 + for all involved. Just say down not many villian reads. Table playing tight preflop with modest aggression post flop.

2 ep/mplimps. Cutoff 5x raise. Hero callsJQ o in the sb. 2 LIMPERS call.

Flop
1096 r. I bet pot 2 folds to the raiser who smooth calls.

Turn
Q.
HERO JAMS ALL IN

Snap call....

River brick



Im wondering what type of hands i can defend blinds with multiway. Would i need to be suited here. I spazz shoved the turn, but it was because I bet the flop and wanted to barrel. Also seeing the Q influenced my allin.



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11-10-2014 , 12:28 PM
Are stacks $200 eff or 200bb eff? Pre flop is a clear fold. I'm never defending with QJo, KJo, ATo here where I know it will go multiway and I'm OOP. If I play this hand, it's 3bet fold pre.

You want to defend with AJ+, KQ+, 22-QQ. Will defend with some SCs and some suited Broadway's if PFR can't fold overpair. The only way u can really win a big pot is from PFR so it depends on his range and how he plays.

But u can 3bet bluff if he raises too wide
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11-10-2014 , 12:35 PM
this is what you call a valuebluff.

results? what type was the original raiser?

more of a monkey (will call worse) or a nit (will fold better)?

edit: im surprised you got snapcalled on that card. cant think of a single hand that should come to the turn like this and be snapcalling.

QQQ maybe but thats one combo

Last edited by LongTimeNoSee; 11-10-2014 at 12:42 PM.
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11-10-2014 , 12:43 PM
Fold preflop.
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11-10-2014 , 12:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LongTimeNoSee
this is what you call a valuebluff.

results? what type was the original raiser?

more of a monkey (will call worse) or a nit (will fold better)?

edit: im surprised you got snapcalled on that card. cant think of a single hand that should come to the turn like this and be snapcalling.

QQQ maybe but thats one combo
I think the quality of this subforum just got worse with this post...

He said he just sat down so no Villain reads. 66, 99+, 9T, JT, QT can all play the hand this way at LLSNL.

Also I don't want to hear the results for 24 hours so we can actually discuss the hand.

Fold pre AINEC. Very difficult to play OOP without reads / hard to play this draw aggressively only 100bb deep.
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11-10-2014 , 12:53 PM
99 snap cALLED

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11-10-2014 , 12:54 PM
I agree is a fold pre. What is my line post against a tag

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11-10-2014 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Sunnyvale
I agree is a fold pre. What is my line post against a tag

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i like your line a TAG may lay down AA/KK on the turn given your line. but dont count on it.
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11-10-2014 , 12:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LongTimeNoSee
this is what you call a valuebluff.

results? what type was the original raiser?

more of a monkey (will call worse) or a nit (will fold better)?

edit: im surprised you got snapcalled on that card. cant think of a single hand that should come to the turn like this and be snapcalling.

QQQ maybe but thats one combo
TT, 99, and QQ could play like this and snap call turn. Also if he's the type to raise KJ pre, he could have a straight
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11-10-2014 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by slimshady1999
TT, 99, and QQ could play like this and snap call turn. Also if he's the type to raise KJ pre, he could have a straight
KJ/KQ would be an awful flop call. thats the reason i actually like this turn shove
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11-10-2014 , 01:02 PM
I suppose 99 is suppose to raise the flop bet. The preflop line is what i was mostly concerned with. Post prolly villian dependent

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11-11-2014 , 06:32 AM
Fold pre...biggest issue

Second biggest issue ..Dont lead your draw oop into the preflop aggressor...youll get pushed off most times. (This is called a donk bet and is very transparent)

Its 4a.m...hes tilted...hes never folding.

Also...your hand now has showdown value so essentially your turning your hand into a bluff.

Last edited by rizasutton; 11-11-2014 at 06:40 AM.
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11-11-2014 , 08:29 AM
K

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11-11-2014 , 08:37 AM
Transparent that what i have a draw or weak pair cuz i would have checked a good hand?

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