Hero ($220)--50 year old white guy. I haven't played many hands at this rather limpy table, so I probably have a TAG/nitty image.

MP ($60) -- Late 20s, quiet Middle Eastern guy who bought in short and has already called a raise PF only to fold to a c-bet...likely a rec fish

BTN ($130)--Mid 20s guy who has already reloaded at least once in the 90 minutes he has been at the table...seems like a rec fish trying to play LAG, albeit badly. He had folded to turn or river raises at least 2-3x when he was double and triple barreling after raising PF. However, I saw him make at least one bad hero call on the river against a drunk luckbox when it was clear that the luckbox was going to showdown at least 2-pair..FWIW, I don't recall having seen the BTN 3-bet PF before this hand.

Casino de Montreal...1-2 NL...full table...

Hero raises to $15 UTG with J J...folded to MP who flats...folded to BTN who 3-bets to $30...folded to Hero who calls anticipating 5:1 in direct odds (does anyone 4-bet AI?), MP calls.


Flop ($90) 3 players

9 6 4

With an SPR of 1, it's either plan to get the money in or fold without spending any more...and if Hero is planning to get it AI, should he donk in order to try to keep the supershorty in, or go for the checkraise against the BTN's likely c-bet?

Hero should...?

I'd slide a stack of reds out against this opposition, they appear to have a willingness to call with worse.

Pre - I'd 4 bet AI, same reason. If the PF raiser has QQ+, nh.

The button will likely c-bet this flop AI. The question is whether or not you want to call. Most LLSNL LAGs do things with big hands that is opposite of the way they usually play, which usually tells us what they have. Fishy LAGs get a little less aggressive with their bets with bigger hands, he WANTS you in this pot. Even if he goes AI with AQ or AK on a c-bet, he's still 3:1 to get there. I still think you're beat by enough of his range to fold.

You should have dropped this hand pre-flop because of the additional decisions you'd have to face and his small stack. Our villain is committed to the pot and our equity vs his range is bad. I know it sucks, but villain needs about $150+ left for me to consider calling his 3 bet here.

I'd say bet his PF raise of $30. Given your description if he still goes all-in or raises again most likely fold, if he flats we are most likely good.

It's a small bet yes, but it will most likely confuse him. He'll either spew if ahead, call if dead.

I would have shoved or folded pre in response to 3bet. I would have chosen which one based on villain's 3betting history. How often have you seen this guy 3bet overall? What did he show down on 3bet hands? If this was his first 3bet I would be inclined to fold. But if he's been doing it quite a bit and/or 3bet and later shown down something like AK or AQ or mid-pocket pair then it's an easy shove due to equity from money already in the pot and being a slight favorite vs two overcards

Villain has to have AQ or worse in his shove range to make call even a little profitable. Which he may; not hard to imagine a lot of Broadway's in his 3b range on button. Against a LAG I like c/c here.

Villain's 3bet, not jam, has to be AQ or worse at the MINIMUM. Villain has AK 0.9% of time and QQ+ 1.35% of time so if we add the AQ then villain has AQ or AK 1.8% of time. So if he 3bets only AQ and QQ+, then we are looking at 1.8 to 1.35 ratio of hands we beat to hands that beat us in villains 3bet range. But then again... QQ+ is total domination vs JJ and JJ is only slight favorite to AQ/AK. Do the pot odds justify a jam if villain has AQ+ and QQ+ when 3betting us here? I don't think so

Gotta make sure villain has much fishier 3betting range that does include a lot of broadways or even 99 and TT to justify a shove imo

I might lean towards fold if I haven't seen that from him yet or a lot of pf 3betting that would give a strong hunch of a wide 3bet range

Tricky spot. It is quite possible he has AK or AQs. Might be the wrong play, but my gut would tell me to make a 1/2 to 2/3 of the pot flop bet. It's quite possible he has your big pair crushed, but seeing that he's already reloaded, it's definitely possible he's steaming a bit and trying to create a big pot with just ace high.

You can't chk/call because you will have no idea where you're at.

That doesn't matter. The question is, does HE know where he's at?

If you donk flop, he will figure you probably have something. It's doubtful he continues with trash. Everything else crushes JJ.

If you check, he is liable to bet his entire range otf.

So the real question is, what's his range pre? Normally a LAG will have a huge range on the button. Especially if he thinks you are tight/weak post.

The only thing is, he is kinda short stacked. That tends to tighten people up. The key variable is whether he 3bets AQ or worse. If he does, you can play. But you have to play against his whole range. And the only way to do that is to let him do the betting.

If you don't think JJ is ahead of his 3b range, you have to fold pre.