5/5 NL

Hero in SB with JJsh ($1500)
UTG, CO and Button ($700) limp
Hero raises to $50
UTG and Button call

Flop ($150):
874ssx

Hero leads for $110
Button calls

Turn ($370):
2x

Hero leads for $240
Button calls

River ($850):
Qh

Hero ???

A new player sat down at the table, but he's so covered up that I can't tell if he's a younger or older Asian gentleman. Not that it matters too much, but if he was ever aggressive in the hand in any street I may be able to get away from it if he were on the older side.

Flop bet seems pretty standard to me given that the board is pretty draw heavy and connects with the callers' ranges. I want to be able to charge all draws going into the turn. The turn is a blank so I want to continue to get value from all draws.

My assumption is that when he calls the turn he is heavily weighted to top pair and various draws. I would imagine all sets and two pair combos would raise in this spot?

When the river comes the Qh I feel like it is mostly a blank unless he had some kind of Qxss combo. Should I be firing a third bullet here to get more value or just check and reassess what he does on the river?

I think check and evaluate is best in this situation for one reason. Villain only has about $300 left. The only reasonable bet size is putting him all in and he probably only calls if he beats your hand. If you check though there is some chance he bluff shoves though he really doesn't have enough left to get you to fold either.

Jam AP imo

It’s a little thin but it’s only a third pot jam

betting smaller flop & turn allows us to b/f here semi-comfortably but it’s not a big deal regardless unless you’re trying to avoid getting it in marginally for whatever reason.

With so little left behind I’d default to check/calling. We’re paying him off if he has us beat, so let’s hope he has busted spades or a straight draw and will bet if checked to.

Pots 850 and he has 350 behind. Are we check folding? no, may as well jam to get max value. I'm not too worried about sets/two pair as he may have raised the flop. And I'm never worried bout Qx.

I just can't see many worse hands calling a river jam here. Even if we decide we're never folding, it seems better to give him the green light to bluff (e.g., if he has missed spades or some type of overs/straight draw) by check/calling.

Honestly I think button puts in a raise on the turn with most of the things that have you beat. And I think with the price he will get, he can find calls with hands like A8 or 99 or whatever.

Moreover, lots of players are reluctant to bluff with so little behind. OP would be getting like 3.4:1 on a call


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Yeah, seems like a v suicidal bluff in V’s shoes at this SPR it checked to.

$300 in a 5/5 game is the equivalent of $120 in a 1/2 game. It’s not a big bet.

In terms of % of pot, even less so.

I think the moral of the story is that we can’t be afraid of the random over. Like unless he has QsXs exactly, this card completes no hand. So JJ really isn’t all that different from KK. And we’d jam KK without question, even though our equity vs range when called is not that much better than JJ.

Moreover, having the Js is nice because he can’t have QsJs. Facing a 10x raise, you’d expect him to call pre with at least decent cards unless he’s a complete donk, and even if he is a complete donk who calls with Qs5s, you’d think that gets raised a fair amount. So of already few QsXs combos, we knock out an additional one.

Edit: if he’s a huge fish, I guess it completes some two pairs too. But that’s basically eh case for any brick that could bang off on the river, so not really worth investing mental energy on.

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Against lol bad villains the flop bet is ok. I see lots of players failing to balance though. Would you really fire 110 with A high that missed flop? We have value but this large flop bet puts us in a bad position when faced with a competent opponent who will easily range us on the hand we have (overpair). I prefer a smaller flop sizing 3-way. Say... $75.

On a blank turn I size up with my continuing range to price out remaining draws, or more commonly to cause mistakes in their calling range.

As played, river is a jam all day long. If villian is sticky you will get value. The likelihood of a passive villain bluffing here is negligible, and we are never folding. So might as well get it in.

Bomb flop/jam turn.

We don't balance against mouth breathers.

This has nothing at all to do with anything, it's irreverent and wasteful to be thinking about these things and making decisions comparing spots to lower or micro stakes games.

Just so the young kids tryina learn the right ways to play don't get into any bad habits or bad thinking.

You are correct that it is irrelevant.

That was the point.

(I’m trying to say think in terms of % of pot regardless of stake)

He limped in and has check/called every street. Without any other reads, I think you have to jam here. We might get looked up by 5x of 6x with a pair because the pot is bloated. If he shows any aggression before this hand, we can check to him to let him bluff off A5 type hands but I think here we need to jam it in.