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01-02-2020 , 06:46 PM
Hi everyone,

We’re playing 1/2 ($200 cap).

Main Villain: UTG, $200~. Drunk fish on tilt. In for several hundred I believe. Has went all in blind twice in the last two orbits and won both times. The best hand he hand was 87s. Up to about $200 from $50. Was playing fine previously.

Hero: LJ. $675~. Young Kid, LAG image. 40/20. 8 hours in. Running well but made a few tough folds that I believe were correct to start the session. Made me a ton in EV and things have turned around in the past few hours.

OTTH:
UTG straddle $4. 2 limpers. Hero raises to $17 (missing the straddle oops) with JdJh in MP. Short stack in LP shoves for $40. UTG calls relatively quickly. He’s looked at his hand. Folds to hero. Your play?

Thanks!
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01-02-2020 , 06:57 PM
I would possibly flat here with AA/KK and GII on all flops vs described V but JJ is just too vulnerable to “trap with” and also loses value from inferior hands like underpairs and connectors that our V may gambool with preflop but can’t continue with on overcard flops.

I make it $100 even and hope he shoves. I feel like he is more likely to shove over this than call a shove. I wouldn’t feel too bad if he folds with a decent pot HU with wide-range shorty and dead money.
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01-02-2020 , 07:09 PM
I don’t really see the value in doing anything other than shoving in this spot. Do we really want to make it $100 and fold an AQ4 flop or something?
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01-02-2020 , 07:35 PM
100% just shipping here and happily riding the variance train.
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01-02-2020 , 07:43 PM
With a little >$100 in the pot and the main V left with $160, AI.
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01-03-2020 , 10:56 AM
I would shove here with all hands I’m continuing with, JJ included. Effective stacks are too short for anything else
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01-03-2020 , 01:53 PM
This is not a PAHWM. This is a shove.
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01-03-2020 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
This is not a PAHWM. This is a shove.
LOL, pretty much
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01-03-2020 , 05:01 PM
Easy ship. He could fold KQs, AQ which is a good result for us.


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01-03-2020 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
This is not a PAHWM. This is a shove.
Play a super straight forward PF street with me
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01-03-2020 , 05:52 PM
I'm trying to figure out why OP thinks this hand is thread-worthy.
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01-04-2020 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Koko the munkey
I'm trying to figure out why OP thinks this hand is thread-worthy.
Perhaps its more interesting if you make the wrong decision pre and call.

OK, OP, you call, and flop is...
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01-04-2020 , 12:25 AM
Thanks everyone. I’m surprised that everyone is shoving, maybe my thought process is flawed?

Against a drunk fish on tilt, I was thinking a flat was best because I wanted to give him a chance to catch up (flop a draw or pair) with all the suited junk he has in his range (96s, 53s etc.) given that he’s extremely wide here. I also thought it would be good to give him the opportunity to spazz out with air OTF, given that I was IP.

Hero flats.

Flop ($120) Td7c8d. UTG leads $20. Hero?
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01-04-2020 , 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
Thanks everyone. I’m surprised that everyone is shoving, maybe my thought process is flawed?

Against a drunk fish on tilt, I was thinking a flat was best because I wanted to give him a chance to catch up (flop a draw or pair) with all the suited junk he has in his range (96s, 53s etc.) given that he’s extremely wide here. I also thought it would be good to give him the opportunity to spazz out with air OTF, given that I was IP.

Hero flats.

Flop ($120) Td7c8d. UTG leads $20. Hero?
JJ is going to put you in a lot of tough spots just flatting. I think you could consider a flat with AA or KK.

As for flop, shove now, given you only have barely over a PSB effective, and any meaningful raise is committing anyway, but I'm guessing you didn't do that either given this is PAHWM...
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01-04-2020 , 05:04 AM
Trivial rip pre is trivial. We have ~$100 in the pot with $160 behind, are way ahead of main villain's range, villain as described isn't folding just about anything. Trapping is lol FPS.

AP well we trapped and scored an overpair + gut shot so I see no reason to continue trapping. Rip pls.
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01-04-2020 , 07:13 AM
Shove pf.

As played, shove flop.

Going to assume OP called the flop bet, an overcard came on the turn and is facing a bet.
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01-04-2020 , 09:41 AM
I still prefer a shove pre, but shove flop as played. We have exactly a pot-sized raise and there are plenty of worse pairs and draws to get value from. If he folds any over cards that have 3-6 outs against us, so be it...is he really going to keep firing with A/K/Q-high in a protected pot?

If we just call, pot is 160 and we have 140 behind. Which turn cards would we feel good about folding to a second barrel? Or which of V’s hands that would fold to our raise on the flop now call a turn jam?
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01-04-2020 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by venice10
Shove pf.

As played, shove flop.

Going to assume OP called the flop bet, an overcard came on the turn and is facing a bet.
OK OP, no point stringing this out. I assume you called. Turn?
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01-04-2020 , 10:16 PM
Thanks guys.

Hero just calls again.

Turn ($160) Td-7c-8d-3x . UTG checks. Hero?

p.s. It's about to get worse... I suck.
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01-04-2020 , 11:32 PM
Pre is a rip, flop is a rip, turn is still a rip.
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01-05-2020 , 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by WereBeer
Pre is a rip, flop is a rip, turn is still a rip.
+1

Let me guess, hero checks behind. OK what's river (hoping for 9d) ...let's put this one to bed.
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01-05-2020 , 04:33 AM
I feel like a parachutist trainer screaming at a newbie in freefall who froze "Rip. Rip! RIP IT NOW!!!"
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01-05-2020 , 11:56 AM
Thanks everyone. Hero checks back turn, hoping he takes a big stab on the river.


River ($160) Td-7c—8d-3x-Qx No available flushes. UTG checks. Sizing?
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01-05-2020 , 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
Thanks everyone. Hero checks back turn, hoping he takes a big stab on the river.


River ($160) Td-7c—8d-3x-Qx No available flushes. UTG checks. Sizing?
The most interesting street.

If he has a missed draw, it probably doesn't matter, he's folding any size. Do we think say something like T9 would call a 1/3 size pot bet and not a PSB?

I find that a lot of players are relatively inelastic to size so probably just shove, and hope he thinks we're FoS and call us off with some pair.
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01-05-2020 , 08:07 PM
As much as I would like to say shove pre shove flop shove turn shove river (what even is this hand), I think the play here is bet one $5 chip to induce/call off.
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